I don't know where they got the daily figures for the average Chinese Tourist spending. I am up in Chiang Mai Thailand (over 15 years in this city now), and they will group haggle snaggle barter to the last straw for transportation if not even considering transpo, will walk dragging lugguge to the airport which is several miles away. No Exaggeration on that one. Pretty funny actually!
There was also this problem of the Chinese going to the all you can eat Thai open air cheap buffets and the Chinese after gorging themsleves literally packing and taking bags of food with them when they left. Now that has been stopped, but I have never ever seen people sit and sit and sit eating more food because of it is as much as you can eat for around 6 bucks.
Generally they are odd, are pushy and unaware for how to travel. and from this it is easy to see how thier #$%$ little Government thinks the world and the S China Sea is theirs and why they think. Thye are notorious for line cutting or dwon your neck behind you if you are at an ATM. I for the most part am ok with them, they are just excactly who they are here for who they are in their own backyard.
Mr. & Fan Of Hogan. You're both seem to be a great match being lost for real. If you both are looking into a mirror first then look at your own people how you all react in your own back yards before making comment or bad mouth to other people. you can't take one or two to sinking the whole boat. Looking to your own people maybe to most by not worst. At least the Chinese people are there to spending money to helping your poor people to bring foods on the table to feed your poor hungry family. You're both should Appreciate how lucky your poor dogs have a few bones to chew off!
@Trulyfair. My backyard is my family's backyard being Thailand and has been for 16 years solid with another split for 6yrs between the USA @ total of 22+ years. Poor dogs? My family and most for example here don't ritely care of make any money directly at all from the Chinese coming here. all i am saying is you guys n girls certaibnly act different than most, but as it is in your country, you ahve to as it is a RUDE DOG EAT DOG there. No one i know has vistied china and come out saying you guys are not rude in some way or the other. Nice in many ways, but rude in many senses. Have a nice night or day for where ever you are at.
@truthlyfair good spelling time for your milk tea at the PLA cafe. Love visiting Paris and viewing the clod trotting chinese country hicks with their inverted backpacks bumping into everything and everyone.
Thailand is a great country to visit. Friendly people, inexpensive. But the Chinese and the Russians go there to treat the Thais as serfs, as something to look down on and treat poorly. The bad thing about Russians is they stated in Thailand and have abused the Thais good nature. The Thais need their income so they will put up with it but those two groups (and the middle easterners) have always traveled as if everyone, including other tourists, is their slave.
Isn't that what the tourist business is about? You can always tell them to stay home. Now, Ann Landers has this famous quote, or something like this... you are the only one who allow others to take advantage of you.
I live in Thailand now for 22 years. I love it but now I have second thoughts because of the terrible behavior of the Chinese tourists. I have seen, so much that was good and that makes me sad to see those pigs doing what they are doing. But.... money talks for the Tourist Industry.
Living in Thailand for more than 11 years, yes, Chinese people don't understand normal behavior, and Thai authorities don't dare complaint, they can't loose them. But also Russian people is bad, as well as Indian who are treating Thai ladies in massage shops very badly
I lived two years in China and I am not shocked by what's been stated here. I was there as they were preparing for the 2008 Summer Olympics and they had an initiative running where they were "training" their people to be "civilized". This included learning how stand in a line, as opposed to pushing one's way to the start of the line. It also included teaching them how not to spit everywhere and yell at each other when talking side by side. Looks like after the Olympics, the Chineese just went back to what they know best.
And China wants to be a world superpower?? One advice: they have to control their defecation before they can be respected, leaves alone being a superpower. Peasants will be peasants! Ha!
An educated Chinese professional told me ' Chinese people have always been like this, the rest of the world is just finding it out since they can now travel outside of China!'
This is nothing new. I lived in Thailand in the early 90's and had the misfortune of booking a hotel for a business trip that was used by the Chinese tourist companies. It seemed like every time I came down to the lobby in the elevator, there would be a mass of Chinese tourist blocking the door when it opened. They wouldn't allow anyone in the elevator to exit, but would just start pouring in. After about the third time this happened I would just stand at the door, elbows extended and plow through those who wouldn't let me out of the elevator. The Thai's have a saying, som nom na, that fit the situation perfectly.
But the Thai's complaining about the Chinese "jumping the queue" is hilarious, as that was one of my biggest pet peeves about the Thai's. Again, som nom na!
As someone earlier pointed out, all this is about the peasant class. Better bred and educated Chinese don't like that behavior either. I have been going to Asia for 61 years both for business and for pleasure. I like it there and pretty much every year for the past thirty have spent 2 or three months there mostly in Southeast Asia and Thailand. Last time was in 2014. Having said all that, I don't understand where you people are encountering all these Chinese. In Bangkok I spend most of my time in the Sukhumvit area between soi 4 and 38. Also was in Chinatown a couple of times. Good food there, by the way. Of course there were Chinese there, but I didn't see any rude behavior. I'm sure it happens, but where?
I have never been to China. Are the Chinese that dirty in their own country or do they feel free to do it in other countries? I don't think the Thai Government should allow any disrespect from anyone even if they are putting money in the economy. Hell if they keep that up they will be just like America.
Lived in Thailand for 2 years and seen lots of stuff like this happening. Now I live in China and understand. It's "new money" people with old world ways of thinking. The city where I live they still potty train their kids by teaching them to squat and #$%$ on the side of the road. Fine for the farm and far rural areas, but not for a big city. So they are taking old world values that are fine to them and going to a more civilized culture. Yes, Thailand is much more civilized than China could ever hope to be.
I'm an expat living in Thailand....5 years and counting. It used to be Russian tourists that were the worst, but they've been outdone by the Chinese. My colleague refers to them as " the savages." I have to agree. Right now there are photos floating around Line accounts of Chinese men slaughtering girls for their ovaries and other body parts to sell to medical schools and hospitals. Truly horrifying, the lack of respect for human life that they have. Kind of puts the whole "flag debate" in perspective.
I lived in china a short time, married a girl from their. Their table manners are simply disgusting! My wife told me that her family had a higher class background than most, so their grandfather taught them table manners; well if that is true then why do I say to my wife you sound just like the Pug dog when you eat! Seriously after she has been 10 years in America, she does have better manners, I hope I have not just lowered mine, yikes?
Whites have you anything like this is really shame, pack up your noble, let us recognize this fact, our history even half of the people is not to, not qualified to say rude people, I can tell you, when our ancestors were still eating raw meat, people will wear a coat suit to eat barbecue
I saw some Chinese overrun a small park area in Arizona once. Their two young kids were throwing anything they could get their hands on and even knocked a garbage can into a lake. They left without picking up or righting one thing they ruined.
Very difficult to travel in places where mainland Chinese are also traveling. Every single bad thing you hear is completely true. Where there is a group of them together, the noise is deafening. They ignore rules, jump queues, won't sit in assigned seats on planes, smoke where-ever they are (even in plane bathrooms). I travel in Asia a lot and always hear stewardesses complaining in private about how unruly and difficult to manage the Chinese are on their planes. And as indicated in this article, the Chinese have personal habits that would disgust any except other Chinese or Indians. We used to enjoy a vacation in Thailand now and then, for the interesting culture, the wonderful food and great beaches, but now that the Chinese have descended on Thailand, I'll take my money to a mexican resort instead. As a rule, go where the Chinese aren't.
THIS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE,,,,,100 PER CENT NOT TRUE
MARION THIBAUT WHERE YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION?
NO WAY CHINESE SPEND THIS MONEY...THEY OWN THEIR OWN HOTELS/MOTELS AND LOOK AND BUT SPEND VERY LITTLE...WANT EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING...OR NO BUY....I BEEN HERE 15 YEARS AND KNOW THE CHINESE ALL TO WELL...YOU MISLEADING WITH THIS INFORMATION...
YOU DONT SEE CHINESE EATING OUT....EAT IN ROOM....TIGHTEST PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH...AND IF THEY DO EAT OUT ALOT OF THEM WILL JUST WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING...OR DEMAND A LOWER PRICE THAN WHAT SHOWS ON THE MENU...SAY THAI TAKING ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY FARANG....REFUSE TO PAY...SEE MANY TIMES..
@ LetReasonRule I'd say you are true, on a roundtrip flight from JFK to Bangkok via Beijing I had my seat occupied to and fro Beijing leg of the flight. When I politely brought it to the individuals' attention they acted like they didn't understand me even after giving him the universal hand gestures for you 'You're in my seat pal.' One had audacity to give me a dirty look even after pointing to the seat assignment on my ticket. Summoned the Air China flight attendant thinking she'd resolve this...not. She told me to just find another seat. I will never ever again transit China when visiting Thailand. And don't get me started on the pushing, shoving and no respect for personal space the Chinese did when in line at the airport...
LetReasonRule, You are absolutely correct. I've been visiting Thailand since 1980. The only thing unruly Communist Chinese Tourist hordes respect is authority. You cannot teach respect to animals. So, as they do the unimaginable, all must intervene with an iron fist, this alone stops them in their tracks. No excuse to put up with disrespectful animals. Cultural differences is no excuse to run amuck.
@spam y, On airplanes, they would receive the "Fists of Fury" by the cockpit crew and be handcuffed and arrested upon landing. You cannot teach respect to animals.
Anh Heo! I am sure The Chinese Animal are better than the Vietnamese right!! Maybe you mistakenly the Vietnamese Vietcong in Thailand buffet line, I am surely you already seen the YouTube Video. wholly #$%$ The server just bring out the shrimp. The Viet killing each other to using by hands, elbow, forks what ever they can. I am sure these hungry ANIMAL are 100% VIETNAMESE!
Try flying on a domestic chinese airline in china! My god you want to know about hell! Funny part is once plane lands they jump up grab their stuff and race and crowd isles before planes stops and off runway....yes they smoke in bathroom on planes, yes they take their socks off and put them in gaps of seats ahead of them have deplorable hygeine and talk in a volume that can only be described as a screaming arguement...yes not ALL chimese but a commanding majority do....they will ruin anything you wish to enjoy by their presence. And god help you if you have chinese on your floor in a hotel! They leave there doors open smoke in nonsmoking rooms and scre and yell all their waking hours....its very bad. VERY BAD.
Yes, they also stand up in the aisles, immediately after touch down on international flights too. Like they are in a hurry they will miss out on something in the market. Horde mentality goes into full overdrive. Must be the Communist indoctrination from childhood and Cultural Revolution byproducts.
Steve - completely agree. Bad enough on international segments, where at least the airline staff make token attempts to restrain the horrible behavior, but on domestic China flights, the staff is simply overwhelmed. If you need to take a domestic flight, be mentally prepared for a miserable journey. Robert - Don't think it's communist indoctrination. The problem is that all the mainland Chinese you see on planes and in foreign destinations nowadays were poor farmers who had never left their village until the Chinese government recently started buying their collective farms to make room for factories or higher density housing. Suddenly farmers who earned $50/mo their entire lives have 10's of thousands of dollars and could start to travel. A bit like the Beverly Hillbillies played out in real life.
Lol some are really true. I was stopping for yellow light in Shanghai, China. Occasionally, some drivers behind me get really mad that I denied his chance of running the yellow light.
my cousin is half Chinese, he told me if I plan to visit a country ,make China your last country to visit, why did he told me this? He went to China to visit his fathers birthplace, he asked someone where to find that place he was looking for and they responded "you have come to China and yet don't know where to go. He said "We are tourist and of Chinese descents we speak the language yet we were treated badly, how much more to other people, pure Chinese have very rude conduct and behavior
I think regardless of your race or nationality, you are taught at a young age how to behave civilised in public. Apparently, mainland chinese didn't get the memo. They are so devoid of any basic human etiquette.
This may be true of the Chinese no matter what country they are visiting. In America, we find many to be rude, without manners, insensitive, and cheap. In shopping centers or other stores, they resemble a herd of animals. We don't need their money.
