Prince's Death Investigation Has Taken a Grim Turn

音乐人王子之死调查出现转机
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This week, as investigators look into Prince’s tragic death at the age of 57, new details have emerged that appear to paint a tragic picture. Two days ago, investigators told the media that they are focusing on the role that painkillers might have played in the musician’s death. This news came shortly after a TMZ report claimed that Prince’s emergency landing days before his death was caused by a drug overdose. Today, the county sheriff investigating the death has asked for help from the Drug Enforcement Administration, as prescription painkillers were found in Prince’s possession when he died.[CN]

今周,随着调查者的深入,王子57岁死亡悲剧又有了新进展,新证据显示可能是他杀。两天前,调查者告诉媒体他们在追查止痛药对王子之死所起的作用。名人报称死亡之前,有发生过王子嗑药过多,飞机紧急迫降的事件。今天,由于查出王子死亡时有带止痛药,调查死因的县警向禁药局求助。

According to NBC News, the DEA’s role “will be to determine such things as where the medications came from, and what prescriptions Prince had obtained. DEA agents often check those records in death investigations.”[CN]

据美国全国广播公司报道,禁药局的作用就是查出药品的来源,王子都有嗑些什么药。禁药局在死亡调查中经常查看此类记录。

An autopsy was conducted last week, but the medical examiner said it will take weeks for the cause of death to be confirmed, and officials have not said what role the painkillers played in Prince’s collapse in his Minneapolis house.

This week, Michael Padden, an attorney for Prince’s siblings told the Star Tribune that Prince had “substantial” problems with opioid painkiller Percocet and cocaine for at least a decade. Meanwhile, the past week has been filled with touching tributes to the late musician, including a powerful performance by D'Angelo on The Tonight Show.

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Taylorville

Personally who cares he died you don't see this kind of money being spent on a homeless person when they die. Or when a soldier is killed why do we even care? He's dead yes it is sad yes I know he has a family. Yes I will be criticized but we have people that die everyday and you don't see huge articles on them. So next time a soldier dies defending our great country I hope to see news feeds flooded with out pour for the service they provided.[CN]

个人而言谁管他是死是活啊,又不见这些钱花在无家可归的死者身上。又或者有士兵被杀了,关我们毛线事啊?是的,他死了,是的,我很伤心,是,我知道他有家庭。我知道我这样说会被批判但每天都有人死啊,你又不见有大篇幅报道。所以,下次有战士为国捐躯时。我希望看到的新闻是:你们没辜负他们的牺牲,尽心帮助被水浸的人们。

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KathyReply toTaylorville

right[CN]

没错。

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lisaReply toTaylorville

what money is being spent?[CN]

花了什么钱?

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Jenn NewmanReply toTaylorville

we care because he was the best at what he did. he was a great performer, the best guitarist to walk the earth, he stood for something, he even managed to keep his life private. that's why we care. you must be young to ask a question such at that.[CN]

我们在乎,在音乐方面他无与伦比。他是个伟大的表演者,地球上最好的吉他手,他代表着一些东西的。他甚至设法维护自己的私生活。这就是我们在乎的原因。能够提出这样问题的,看来你年龄也不大。

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joe

There is so much help out there for those struggling with addictions, prescription or otherwise and maybe this will be a sign to those to get the help they need before it is too late.[CN]

对于那些有药瘾或其他瘾的人,你也帮不上什么忙。这次的事情可以给这类人敲个警钟,趁事情为时未晚,快快寻求他人帮助(修正)。

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CatherineReply tojoe

@Joe, yes there is a lot of help out there but do you realize how much money those places want?? They don't care about your sobriety, they just want your money!! Get real!![CN]

@Joe : 的确有很多地方可以帮忙,但你知道要花多少钱吗?他们才不管你节不节制,他们只想赚你的钱。醒醒吧。

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EdNorton2Reply tojoe

Do what I did... Got drunk in early May 2011 ... decided it was a good time for me to clean my 9mm, shot my middle finger off (don't ask me how, I was in a blackout). That was a wakeup call from Father and in a few days I'll be sober for 5 years, with no plans to get drunk again.[CN]

听听我的经历...早在2011年5月,我喝醉了...想到是时候擦擦我9mm的枪了,把我中指打断了(别问我怎么弄的,我晕过去了)。后来我父亲一个电话把我吵醒了,好些天后,我为这事哭了整整5年,再也不会再喝醉了。

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EdNorton2Reply tojoe

OH and now, if I want to flip someone off, I hold up my index and ring fingers and say: "Read between the lines."[CN]

所以我现在要对别人竖中指时,我就伸出我的食指和中指说:”看两指中间。“

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RosanneReply tojoe

Bravo joe !!![CN]

说得好,Joe

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hollyReply tojoe

Catherine is correct. Even with insurance, the insurance companies step you down after two weeks, usually. This is like giving a cancer patient 1 or 2 chemo treatments. Then, they encourage intensive outpatient counseling, where all the newly released addicts are champing at the bit to get high. Then, they charge you for whatever the insurance didn't cover, and won't let you back in when you inevitably relapse, until you cough up hundreds of dollars. Maybe this isn't the case in other states, but it sure is in Arizona. Plus a woeful lack of facilities...unless you are rich. It is a never-ending revolving door of pure BS and money. I know, my daughter is an addict and will most likely die. Yes, if you can get clean the first time (hah) in rehab, it works. That is almost never the case.[CN]

Catherine是对的。即使有买保险,保险公司也通常会隔两周削减你的赔偿。就好像给癌症病人一两次化疗一样。他们鼓励密集式的门诊咨询,所有刚释放的瘾者参与竞标,高价者得。然后他们还是收各种保险不报销的费用,等你旧病复发又继续收你钱直至你呕出上百美元为止。可能其他州不是这样,但在亚利桑那州的确如此。加之设备紧缺...除非你很有钱。这是个无底洞,耗尽你所有金钱。我知道的,我女儿就是瘾君子,可能死了吧。是的,第一次修复你可能洗清了,起作用了。可是那几乎是不可能的。

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Travis

Another doctor will be losing his license due to another rich addict dying.[CN]

富有的瘾君子死掉的话医生的营业执照就保不住了。

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Nick

His addiction is none of my business, may he rest in peace and I'm positively sure he wouldn't care for all of this attention into his personal lifestyle being the private guy that he was. I don't like the news.[CN]

他上瘾关我什么事呢?愿他安息,考虑到他是个有隐私的人,我敢肯定我不会在意这种对他生活的关注。我不喜欢这则新闻。

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Totora

The "Grim turn" story is no news; it is already been said he was on pain killers for a hip pain that needed hip replacement . And we also know that the toxicology will take months before result comes up. So tell us something that we don't know. Besides ;every addition starts with a prescribed pain killers that gradually increase in strength to the point the artist becomes dependent on the " make an addict and grab money system. So pls tell us something new.[CN]

这种“巨大转变”不是什么新闻。已经说过了,他髋关节不舒服,需要治疗,止痛药可以缓解痛苦。我们也知道结果没出来之前,毒理学还需研究几个月。所以说一些我们不知道的吧。另外,每个瘾君子都从嗑止痛药开始,慢慢的增加之后就变成了常态 - 艺术家就依赖于“做个瘾君子捞钱系统”,说些新的东西吧。

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McReply toTotora

Sad, but you right.[CN]

很不幸,你是对的。

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Icepick Lobotomy BoyReply toTotora

Every addiction does not start with prescribed pain killers.[CN]

并不是瘾君子都是从止痛药开始嗑起的。

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RonaldReply toTotora

The problem is that some people think that if a little of a medication is good, then a lot is better. In the case of pain-killers, this may lead to taking enough to stop the pain, permanently. I take hyrdocodone for the same purpose. I would never consider mixing it with something illegal, and take only 1/3 the recommended dose prescribed, and that not every day. After 13 years, it is still effective, and I need less, not more, to achieve the desired pain reduction. It is the difference between an addictive personality, and a non-addictive personality.[CN]

问题是有人觉得用些许药会好的,用多的话会更好。在嗑止痛药的案例中,这就会导致吃够多才能永久清除痛苦。我吃氢可酮,目的也是为此。从没想过和其他非法药物使用,而且吃药方上建议量的三分之一,不是每天哦。13年后还是很有效。减免痛苦的腰量是越来越少了,不是越来越多。这就是瘾君子和非瘾君子的差别了。

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Blue

I'm sure they teach using TMZ as a primary news source in all the prestigious journalism schools.

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Ann

I just saw a commercial on t.v where it said nexuim the med for heart burn can kill you now, so is nothing safe to take these days but that don't stop pharma's from pushing them. R.I.P sweet Prince no judgement here, love you anyway.

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GLN

While I am not a fanatic fan of his, how about we all just wait until the autopsy results are back and stop theorizing? It is sad that he is gone, but I am sure his family, friends and fans would dearly love to see this type of pokey guessing go away.

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KathyReply toGLN

true

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Ed the Head

Taking opiods for pain is something that needs to be closely managed. As a chronic pain sufferer, I know that some days you just have to deal with a certain level of pain so that you do not become dependent on them. It is VERY difficult for someone who has to go through the physical endurance of a performer.

I give Prince a pass on the opiods, but the cocaine is inexcusable. Other posts are correct. No human is invincible.

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DragonflymoonReply toEd the Head

We don't yet know about the coke...do we?

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AnnieReply toEd the Head

I agree. I am a sufferer as well. The difference is Prince took them for pain, as we do, while an addict takes them for the feeling they get from them. What people don't know is that when you're in pain, you don't get any type of "high" feelings from them. Just some relief. So there IS a difference between taking it as medicine and being an addict. Just my opinion.

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Ayatollah Bikh-i-ni

"Prince's Death Investigation Has Taken a Grim Turn"

Yup, but anyone daring in these comments to raise questions about either Prince's or Justice Scalia's supposed "natural deaths" got nothing but thumbs down. Apparently people are set on believing that they were "just taken by God to be sent to some eternal paradise" or other #$%$. If you reall think that there was no foul play involved in these deaths, well, dream on ...

Prince's body was promptly cremated before many questions could be asked, and medical coroners were not allowed near Scalia's body which was quickly buried without autopsy despite the circumspect circumstances. Yeah, that's all dead normal ...

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RosanneReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

Interesting points

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goldenauragirlReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

There was a companion with Judge Scalia at that ranch and no one ever reported who it was. I assumed he must've been cheating on his wife.

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Steve-OReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

Scalia was a fat pig with a bad heart that's been documented. Prince was mixing pain killers and cocaine.

There is no conspiracy. They performed autopsies on both of them there is no need to keep the bodies around.

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KkkkkkReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

Your paranoid schizophrenia is back!! Get back on your meds!!

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Angry AmericanReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

Steve-O there was no autopsy performed on Scalia

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BryantReply toAyatollah Bikh-i-ni

Funny stuff. So far everything is a rumor and has not yet been proven.

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Darth

Not sure if this is grimm really: it just shows that even the rich often have to resort to doctor shopping because of the onerous DEA drug war keeping them in pain.

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♫♪♪♫♫

I thought he became a Jehovah's Witness? I don't know enough about JW's, but Prince had a hip surgery, and was taking pills. Isn't that a no-no in that religion? IDK - just wondering......

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GjcReply to♫♪♪♫♫

There not allowed to take blood from another person.

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♫♪♪♫♫Reply to♫♪♪♫♫

I knew that about the blood. But I thought there were other medically related things they didn't do. There was an individual in my spouses family, not blood related, that was a JW, and wouldn't even take medications.

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Darth

I don't think Prince was 'abusing' pain pills if he was in pain: I think the US's war on drugs is forcing peeps in pain to have to go thru such measures in order to find relief. That said he had the the money to employ a Doc with narcan to follow him around, but maybe post Mike Jackson there are fewer doc's willing to work as 'milk of amnesia' like specialists?

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SusanReply toDarth

Narcan is over the counter. Body guard should have had it .

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Jan(is) MReply toDarth

so you think that emergency plane landing was just a visit to his fans at the hospital & other statements of his addiction?

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It's Common Sense

I understand that he was a well-known singer and all, but can we just move on? There was less media coverage of the Kennedy assassination.....

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Jan(is) MReply toIt's Common Sense

there was not the internet & social media when Kennedy was shot

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GXY

"Prince had substantial problems with opioid painkiller Percocet and cocaine for at least a decade."

Mixing prescription pain killers with anything, including alcohol, often doesn't end well.

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KathyReply toGXY

do you know that for a putting your neck on a chopping block fact? We're you there?

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Mike

No idea how so many ppl who obviously knew how much he was spending on pain killers "which he was obviously abusing" can be interviewed on tv and make statements like " i was shocked when i heard the news" besides being flat out ignorant. I can understand his ppl keeping quiet because they are all interested in one thing, the money trail while he was alive. Its like dousing ones self in gasoline, and then lighting a lighter, and then reacting as if you had no idea what the end results would be. Its called denial ppl. And in the end result, all i see in the media are stories about where his money is going, to who, how much, and why. It isn't anyone's business who he left to , why, or how much.

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RamRoomReply toMike

Totally agree. His own cook must have seen something. His body guard(s), chauffeurs, staff. It is technically impossible to hide from all those living with you. Money shut them up. Very soon, each will come out for the tabloids. It's almost conspiratorial (figuratively), they were silenced in favor of their paychecks, and now they come out for an opportunity of a life time.

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plotterReply toMike

If your boss were doping, what would you do? Seriously, what path would you take? We don't know whether people in Prince's life said nothing. He was a solitary fellow. His staff might have indeed warned him, as might his friends. But what could they do? Quit loving him? Quit making him healthy meals? Quit cleaning his house or driving him around? His staff and friends were not cops or social workers. Prince was in control of his own actions. For a true addict, there isn't much one can do, especially if the addict is protected by a lot of money and solitude.

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Geo GalReply toMike

Many people abuse drugs and don't die from it. We have no idea what those close to him did to help him.

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Je SuisReply toMike

Yes, its still all speculation, which many Citizen's, here in The Good Ole U.S of A. in 2016 to date, are Oh! so very, very good at actively doing no doubt at all, too!

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CatherineReply toMike

To add to plotter's comment, If one has a loved one who is receiving narcotics from a legitimate doctor for what was once a legitimate medical issue and the patient is now hooked on and abusing the medications it becomes impossible to help. Even if a family member informs the doctor about the abuse/misuse if the patient can convince the doctor the drugs are needed the Rx drug supply continues. When family members confront the drug user they are accused of wanting the patient to suffer from pain because no doctor would prescribe a drug that wasn't needed.

I live in Mpls and have a family member who has been prescribed narcotics for years for a litany of chronic pain issues. I've given up hoping any doctor will be honest and confront this family member. I've informed them of the misuse. They've seen this person in a slurred, out of it state.

Yet because this person is able to put on an act, complete with wearing knee braces, using a cane or wheeling into the office in a wheelchair claiming the pain has never been this bad the Rx's just keep a coming.

I've often wished the doctor would peek out the window and watch this same person, who just seconds ago claimed to be in so much pain they could barely walk or speak toss the wheelchair into the trunk or the cane in the back seat, hop in the car and drive off. Then walk into their apartment or Perkins for dinner without the cane or the wheelchair and enjoy dinner with coherent conversation.

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ExtreemeReply toMike

My wonderful friend who passed away at the age of 87 once said to me, "I'm in so much pain, if one more person says I look good, I will punch them in the face!" (She was the sweetest person and would not have. She didn't even learn to use curse words until she was a ripe old 75. LOL What a great summer that was.)

She had such terrible osteoporosis which did eventually become obvious. The doctor couldn't put any supports in back because the bones, when he tried, crumbled at his touch. This was still about 15 years before she died. She knew I understood her suffering. Pain is not always visible. You can't tell how much or how little anyone else has.

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Arusticat

Might the beginning of use of paint killers match the beginning of an intolerably painful medical condition? maybe no good choices, just pain that makes you wish your are dead vs. a painkiller that makes life tolerable but comes with the risk of addiction/death?

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C SReply toArusticat

You hit it dead on.

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Barbi

Turn on the television and count the number of commercials pushing some kind of pill. "Everything you think, do and say is in the pill you took today."

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LindaReply toBarbi

Yes, and all the test tube babies now being born to up the medical professions coffers primarily. Yep, the year 2525 is here, and its only 206.

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MarshaReply toBarbi

Tear it down and start again before we ruin the Earth so that no other animal can survive. We've had our chance and made a mess of it.

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IndyReply toBarbi

There's two ways doctors end appointments: they either hand you a prescription or a lab order...

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Commenter

Does anyone else wonder about all of his?

I mean, the fact that he was worth more dead, than live, due to his massive, yet unreleased music collection, which he kept FOR IMSELF, unwilling to release, and play into the ands of the huge record industry???

People who have something wrong with bones or joints are in tremendous pain, and surgery often DOES NOT HEAL IT. There are so many people in the world o pain meds of some sort, that they are now creating other drugs to aid with the side effects of those drugs, such as constipation.

Taken AS PRESCRIBED, they can allow people to function.

I think there is a large number of people that for some reason want to get more control over the health care of other people, and track what medications they use for some other, unrelated reason There is work ongoing right now on chips and trackers which would be on both the pills and inside the patient which would monitor the usage.

Not a conspiracy nut, just paying attention to what is happening in the world today.

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BlondeBaileyReply toCommenter

And oftentimes surgery can make the pain much worse. My 1st massively botched spine fusion is a good example. And then there's the scar tissue that wraps around nerve roots and organs that causes even more pain.

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CommenterReply toCommenter

Oh, I feel for you, I really do. I know other people who are in bad shape, with back problems as well. Back pain is one of the number one problems in the US.

I, too have had surgery, which did nothing to make my life any better..

I have often said that I wish I had never had it!

I don't take anything, but "tolerate" the pain, use ice, (well, I do take over the counter anti inflamatories sometimes), do the rubs with lidocaine, and aspirin them, etc. I have ugly scars, now, too, on my legs.

I am limited in what activities I can do. And, as one part of us is connected to another, I find it has cause other part of my body to give me trouble, now.

The thing was, when I opted for the surgical route, that I was afraid it would get even worse, and so, who really knows?

I read once about a man who took his own life, and he had undergone the surgery I had.

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JerReply toCommenter

no

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SundeReply toCommenter

When people need to state they are not a conspiracy nut they usually are. Just a tragic overdose, that is all

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CharlotteReply toCommenter

I don't understand why the Walgren's pharmacy staff kept filling so many prescriptions in the same week for Prince (who reportedly made 4 trips there the week he died). I'm surprised that Prince wasn't referred back to his primary physician who in turn could refer him to a specialist in pain management --- especially with all of his financial resources. Bizarre. Also, after having supposedly OD'ing 6 days before his actual death, you would think that family, friends and/or band members wouldn't have left him alone for at least the first 2 weeks just to monitor or assist Prince until he fully recovered. Once again, the Almighty dollar wins the race. Let one of us need 4 Percocet prescriptions in one week, we'd be stopped by the 2nd request. Smh...

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