Pregnant Mother of Two Stabbed to Death, Husband Turns Himself in After Manhunt

怀孕妈妈被刺死,老公逃逸后自首
Us Weekly

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A pregnant mother of two was stabbed to death, allegedly by her husband of nearly six years, Yeveginy “Eugene” Savenok, on Saturday, May 14, inside their home in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, according to the Star Tribune.[CN]

据星坛报报道,5月14号在明尼苏达州伊登普雷里发生一起命案,育有两个孩子的怀孕母亲被刺身亡。传言凶手是与他生活了近6年的丈夫-叶维吉尼·尤金·沙文诺克。

Lyuba Savenok died shortly after police were called to a domestic-disturbance call at their two-story house, the paper reports. Eugene, 30, reportedly fled the scene in an SUV with their two children — Matthew, 4, and Vivienne, 3 — but later turned himself in to police, and has not yet been charged.[CN]

据报道,有人报警告知沙文诺克家二楼发生家庭暴力事件后,露芭·沙文诺克不久就死了。尤金,30岁,据说当时带着两个孩子(4岁的马修和3岁的维维恩)逃离现场。后来他到公安局自首,如今还未判刑。

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Eden Prairie police lieutenant Greg Weber told CBS Minnesota he was familiar with the suspect. “We do have previous calls to that residence for domestic assault cases,” he said, adding that the accused had been arrested in the past for domestic assault and was scheduled to go on trial later this year.[CN]

当地警长格雷格·韦伯告诉明尼苏达广播电台,他们熟知犯罪嫌疑人。 “我们先前就有收到电话关于他们住处的家庭暴力事件,” 他补充说道,”被告过去因家庭暴力被逮捕过,今年计划对其进行审判。”

The 23-year-old victim’s brother, Aleksandr Katane, told the Star Tribune that his sister was 26 weeks pregnant with a baby boy. “Her greatest passion was being a mom and doing everything she could to enrich their lives,” Katane wrote in an email. “The entire family is heartbroken, and we look for Lyuba in the face of her remaining children. It is very hard.”
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受害者23岁的弟弟,亚历山大·卡塔尼向星坛报透露,他姐姐当时怀有小男婴已26个星期。“她最大的愿望就是做一个好妈妈,竭尽所能让孩子们生活过得美好。“亚历山大·卡塔尼在邮件中如此写道,“整个家庭悲痛欲绝,我们只能从她剩下的孩子脸上追忆她,真让人难受。”

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Fox 9 reported that Lyuba had an order for protection against Eugene in Illinois. 

A GoFundMe page has raised more than $37,000 to raise money for Matthew and Vivienne.

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Donya

Very sad and tragic for this mother and baby. Particularly,her surviving children. I wish more could have been done for this family. As a counselor,I understand that this dynamic is revolving,cyclic and unable to break. Without some severe consequences and loss.[CN]

对妈妈和孩子来说都是一场悲剧。对余下的孩子尤是如此。我希望公众可以给予这个家庭更多帮助。作为一名顾问,我深知这种事情还会发生,循环往复,无穷无尽,总会造成一些严重的后果的损失。

I hope that her children will get the support and care throughout their lives. To help them through this WITH love and nurturing. There is nothing like having a good and loving mother in a child's life. The loss will be felt no doubt. Hopefully,the families involved will help them.[CN]

希望这些孩子这一生能得到关怀和支持。要用爱和关怀帮助他们渡过这道坎。在孩子的生活中还有什么比拥有一个充满爱心的好妈妈更重要的呢?这损失无疑是不可弥补的。希望剩下的人能够帮上忙吧。

Let's see justice served here on the family's behalf.[CN]

让我们看到正义始终站在这个家庭这一边。

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mhb

By the time domestic violence becomes a pattern, the women are so victimized, so fearful, so intimidated, that they are convinced (by their abusers) that they did something to deserve it. This is the way many of these stories end. I am sorry she didn't have someone, a support system, that intervened and got her away from him. I hope a judge throws the book at him. Problem is, some slick defense attorney will play the 'mentally ill' card or the 'self defense' card and get him off with a slap on the wrist. He killed two people and deserves life imprisonment..or he'll do it again if he gets out.[CN]

如今家庭暴力已经成为一种模式,妇女深受其害,提心吊胆,惊恐万分。最终她们屈服于虐待者,认为自己做错了应有此“暴”。很多故事就是这样结尾的。我感伤的是,她一个女人,没有他人,没有保护她的制度可以介入,让她远离,不受此害。希望法官可以重判。问题是,一些狡猾的辩护律师会打出“精神病”或者“正当防卫”牌让他免受大罪,只略予申斥。他杀了两个人,当判终生监禁...不然出来后他还会干出这事。

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John Chakaria

Wow, the first I see when I turn on my computer. There was a time this kind of news was shocking but now sadly it is not. Again I will say I will never understand how or why a man would allow himself to commit such a cowardly act. The mother of my sons put me through Hell most of the time during our long relationship but I never ever resorted to physical violence towards her. This so called husband/father not only took his wife's life but he destroyed his innocent children's lives and of course took the innocent life of the child Lyuba was carrying. Very sad. My sincerest condolences to Lyuba's parents, siblings, other family members and friends. At least the perpetrator is in custody and will held in account for the things he has done. RIP Lyuba.[CN]

哇,打开电脑先看到这个。以前看到这种故事总觉得震惊,现在已经麻木。但是我是不懂,身为男人怎能做出这样怯懦的行为。我和我孩子他妈之前在一起很长时间,很多时候她令我抓狂不已,我也没诉诸过暴力行为、这个所谓的丈夫/父亲不仅夺去他妻子和未出世孩子的无辜生命,他还毁掉了露芭带大的孩子的无辜的一生。致以露芭父母,孩子,家人,朋友最真诚的慰问。至少肇事者已锒铛入狱,为他所犯下的错承担后果。

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PatrickReply toJohn Chakaria

I agree with you on the part of the exwife. Mine was very abusive and very crazy and would go off on me for no reason what so ever. I got out and never looked back. I heard that her and her new husband are both drunks now and are very abusive to each other and between the neighbors calling either the cops or military police on them they are still together with no charges. I got smart and left 8 months after we got married and she started to go crazy about 2 weeks before we got married and thought it was just stress but 8 months later no way.[CN]

完全同意你说的关于前妻的那部分。我的前妻又暴力又躁狂,不问来由就冲我身上撒。离婚后我再也没有回眸。听说她跟现在的丈夫都是酒鬼,彼此虐待对方。邻居叫来警察武警都无济于事,他们还在一起没有判加什么罪名。结婚后8个月我学聪明了,离开了她。结婚前2周她就开始发狂了,刚开始我以为她只是压力太大,8个月后我懂了。

Its messed up that people all over this planet are killing their spouses and or kids or both. If you cant handle it just leave and if your with someone like that? Get the hell out and dont look back at what that person was before you got engaged because that person left the planet sometime and isnt coming back and you need to see the monster now and just RUN.[CN]

这个星球上的人又是杀妻又是灭孩子的,把生活搞得一团糟。如果应付不来,你就离开,如果你正在交往这样的人,快快离开,别再回头,不再在想着她没订婚前的模样。那货有时就不是地球人,一去不复返了。你得向前找另一个怪物,继续奔跑吧。

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AnnaReply toJohn Chakaria

Great response! You sound like an upstanding man! Kudos.[CN]

这回复不错。听起来你挺正派的,赞!

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Bonnie

This is so sad, A lot of women don't get out soon enough. I was lucky, I was beat, but after he pulled a gun, that was it. He shot at me, scared me to death, I didn't know he took the bullets out. He went to work and I got help and moved out. With two kids. Women are afraid like I was, to move on, When you have kids it's harder. You also think this man loves you so much. I had a hard time letting go because I was raised in a fighting hitting home, Tied up on a pole in the basement. So when my ex treated me like that, I thought that was love.After help I also learned that it is not LOVE. If this helps one women by reading this.I thank God. I am so so -( sorry for the loss the children will go through).[CN]

太惨了,很多妇女都未能及时脱身。我很幸运,我被打败了,但当他拿出了枪,到此为止了。他朝我开枪,吓死我了,原来子弹没上膛。他工作去了,我得到帮助带着两个孩子搬走了。妇女都和我一般,害怕生活得向前看,尤其有了孩子更是艰难。你觉得这男人是爱你的。我有一段难以忘怀的经历:我自小在受虐边打中的家庭长大,被绑在地下室的柱子上。我前夫如此待我时,我觉得那是爱。经过帮助我了解到那根本不是爱!如果我所写还对对读过的女人有小小帮助,谢天谢地。真的深深,深深为孩子们的损失感到痛心。

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DReply toBonnie

How does anyone that was tied to a pole ever equate that to Love?[CN]

居然有人认为被绑到柱子上是因为爱你?

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WilliamReply toBonnie

You know they love you when they care enough to tie you to a pole.[CN]

他们在乎你才会把你绑到柱子上,你懂的。

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DeannaReply toBonnie

If you're always taught that the sky is green, you eventually believe that the sky is green. It's what she grew up with and believed was right.[CN]

如果你从小被教导天空是绿色的,最终你会相信天空是绿色的。是她成长的环境和坚信对的东西造就她的想法。

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kReply toBonnie

People think it's easy to walk away. But when you are not only physically beaten down, but mentally beaten down, you are made to think that no one else could love you. That you are unloveable, so any kind of attention would be considered love. Even if it is brutal. Restraining orders are only as good as the paper they are written on. Ladies, get out when the first red flag is drawn. Don't wait for it to get better. Don't accept the apology..."I'm Sorry but you bla bla bla". Run, get out and find help. It will only get better when you are away from the situation. My heart goes out to her family, and her babies.[CN]

人们以为这事轻易就过去了。但当你不仅身体受伤,心灵也受创,感觉没人再爱你了。你被忽视,任一种对你的关注你都会将其视为爱,即使是很残忍的那种。禁令也比他们签下的文件好不到哪去。女士们,红旗一亮就要立马离开了。不要等事情变好,不要接受道歉“真的很对不住..."等等这些。一个字,跑,逃出去,找支援。只有远离这种情景一切才会好起来的。我的心与他的家人孩子同在。

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Maryellen GallowayReply toBonnie

You are absolutely correct: this is NOT LOVE-it is selfish control for HIM! Leave that sorrow loser-now-before it is too late. Matters only get worse, believe me.

I am a therapist for additions, abuse, and other mental health disorders. Situations don't change-ONLY THE NAMES!

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SaraReply toBonnie

@Bonnie I am sorry for the abuse that you endured and I am grateful that you finally freed yourself from your abusive ex husband and I also under stand why you thought being tied too a pole was love and I also grew up in a abusive home I watched my father beat up my mother he ripped her clothes off of her even after she bleed from her mouth and her nose he continued too beat and I will never forget those horrible memories and he also abused me and he would always tell me that he was beating me because he loved me when I was six my abusive Evil coward bully monster father beat me until I was unconscious and he brained washed into believing that abuse was love and when I got married my husband abuse me and I believed that he loved me and after almost 24 years of marriage I went to a therapist and this awesome lady helped me too realize that abuse was not love and I finally got the courage that I needed and I divorced the evil coward bully and I will never give any one my power again and I am happily divorced

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AdamReply toBonnie

I'm glad you got out. Men should never do anything to hurt a women. I been married to my wife about a year but we been together almost 22 years. And in that time I never lay a finger on her. I'm 35 years old and i know better them to ever hurt a woman. The only time its ok for a man to use force against a woman is in self defense. If a woman is coming after a man to kill him with any kind of weapon then yes use force to save your life.

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annsReply toBonnie

You're a brave woman Bonnie, and we wish you all the best!

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Biglittlejoe

What could have possibly drive him to kill his wife, pregnant too, and the mother of his children??

Wow! Horrible! Just horrible!!!

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RacistPeckerwoodReply toBiglittlejoe

Predisposition?

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MariaReply toBiglittlejoe

The number 1 cause of death for pregnant women in the United States is murder.

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ElizabethReply toBiglittlejoe

When you're a psychopath or sociopath, you do these things.

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PartyReply toBiglittlejoe

I wonder was there a life insurance policy?

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JohnReply toBiglittlejoe

Maybe he found out one or more of the kids weren't his.

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chrisReply toBiglittlejoe

Many of their kind (from Ukraine or Russia) do this.

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sueReply toBiglittlejoe

Maybe he was just an #$%$ John who got his rocks off by dominating & terrifying his family. You understand the #$%$ part, right John?

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ArcadianReply toBiglittlejoe

I'm sure she told him he'll never see his kids again or she'll take everything from him by child support. Well this is the outcome, a snapped man!

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Lockdown67Reply toBiglittlejoe

Arcadian, get better at not crying.

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lorelleReply toBiglittlejoe

What a totally ignorant response. Do your research! These men are INSANE. controlling monsters. should be dead.

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SusanReply toBiglittlejoe

Is Arcadian for archaic? Definition - obsolete, out of date. Like cave man philosophy.

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lbuggy65Reply toBiglittlejoe

Power, that is what drives a man to do this to a woman. I have lived through this violence . And I am happy to be single, FOREVER!

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lakeyramReply toBiglittlejoe

Mentally and emotional ill not taken seriously. You cant fix crazy by staying.

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lbuggy65Reply toBiglittlejoe

It is hard to leave a person that manipulative, trust me, I know!

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Florida1Reply toBiglittlejoe

What would drive someone to do that? Sad that folks now have to even ASK that question. God TOLD us all about this in HIS BOOK; the Holy Bible. The word? LUCIFER. Aka as devil, satan, evil, Grave sin.....THAT IS WHY WE NEED JESUS CHRIST OUR SAVIOR. THIS MAN CLEARLY DIDN'T HAVE JESUS IN HIS LIFE.....(Sad that the devil WON in this case)...tragic and sad

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MeReply toBiglittlejoe

Some people are just mean

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JcodeReply toBiglittlejoe

WHAT DROVE HIM to do that? You want to know the answer? He is human. Worse stuff back in the Stone Age. Humans will be humans and there is nothing shocking about another human killing. It has always happened.

Now, for the irrational, depressed, and miserable women who will take my post the wrong way and want my head on the stick, no, I don't condone murder. I'm just not going to act shocked about it when a human commits it. It's called being human. We are as animal as the dog next door whether you want to believe it or not. Remove the police and order and I'll show you what being a human is all about. There is no God. Just a bunch of weak minded people full of fear.

Just keeping it real here.

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GutsReply toBiglittlejoe

@Maria yeah cause nobody likes those obese nagging disgusting wh...re pregnant b...tches!!!

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CHRISTINE

I feel so bad for this woman, yet I can't believe she was pregnant again with his 3rd child. Can't believe that. The order of protection, did not protect her, it rarely does, when they want to get you. I hope he gets the death penalty, if this state has it, since he not only killed her, but also her unborn child. If no death penalty, then life with no parole. He is a Monster, and I hope the #$%$ rots in Hell.

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Cat Mom

So many people worry about dying at the hands of a terrorists. We do so little to protect us from our own fellow residents. Especially where domestic violence is concerned. How long was that assault trial going to take? Until it was too late of course. And why the order of protection in another state only.

And who was counseling this woman that she was putting herself and her kids in danger? And why are we raising women to think they are better off with an abuser than without?

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JulieHReply toCat Mom

And yet she continued to have kids with him...pregnant again...

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Sofie'sVoiceReply toCat Mom

There are various reasons why women stay in abusive relationships. They have been browbeaten so much they have little self esteem, they tend to blame themselves for upsetting the spouse, hope burns eternal that they can change the spouse's behavior, especially if they promise never to do it again, the abused one has no income and is totally dependent on the abuser's money, they are embarrassed to let family know they are being abused and in some cases look at divorce as failure or it goes against their religion. That piece of paper was worthless, probably infuriated him even more. That's why it had been issued before in a different state.

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JReply toCat Mom

She was pregnant because she was not "allowed" to say "no" and with no income of her own, she remained because having bed, roof & food for herself and children is better than the unknown (shelter). There is always hope that things will change.

Truthfully, God is the ONLY source of love and w/o God in his heart, person cannot truly love and is capable of becoming an animal.....and this is happening more every day!

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Z U KReply toCat Mom

AMEN.........

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RobinReply toCat Mom

They were Russian. She was afraid she couldn't make it on her own. It's not her fault, but when a man mistreats you or says 'no more kids' , believe him. Don't get pregnant again. That was the 'straw'.

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PK

Even before the murder, this woman's life was ruined: Pregnant with a 3rd child at 23 and trapped in an abusive relationship. Poor woman! Women - please don't marry that young! Grow as a person, figure out how to take care of yourself first and develop some healthy self esteem. Once you've got yourself sorted out you'll make smarter decisions about who you end up with or at least have the faculties to get out if you make a bad decision.

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BobbieReply toPK

That's good advice, but I don't think she had a choice.

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richardReply toPK

what me and my wife have been married for almost 14 years. she is 19 days older than me . we got married at the age of 19. we got four really good kids. well the youngest is a bit and a little pain in the butt sometimes. we got thru some really hard times together. I never hit my wife but I have pushed her . we used to throw our stuff around when we got #$%$. till we realised how stupid we were being. break it now we have to go buy it again. it isn't fun eating your dinner out of cups cause you broke all you're plates. both of us basically had to grow up. I don't understand how people could kill someone you married. why get married in the first place ?

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BonnieReply toPK

Women think this is love.If you were raised in domestic home.

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Like I said...

They were obviously not getting along, but this, as always, is too far. It needed a bigger person to step away. Ladies, please explain to me: why would you ever think that having children in a violent home is a good idea? 3 children/pregancies in 4+ years? Before physical abuse, there is usually verbal abuse. Forgiveness only goes so far. If you see a chemical imbalance, find shelter and seek help. Her family is speaking up for her now after she is dead. He wanted sex, naturally - but it is her job to protect her life, and do everything to not bring children into the world with this type of man.

One's energy get dispersed when children come into the picture, but protection of self is mandatory to raise them. You slip up, make a mistake, get pregnant with a violent man's child, ok. But 3 times? This man wanted to be rid of you, and now he's murdered one child and left 2 practically orphans. Mothers are the stewards of their families, and some choose very poorly.

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GabReply toLike I said...

Also we need to stop laying this on the women only. So many people ask "Well why did she stay, why didn't she work harder to conceal herself?"

How about we equally teach men that you are the lowest of the LOW if you do this. Walk away. You have no right to treat another human, let alone the person who birthed your DNA back into the world.

Do not be that guy. Only a coward does this.

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Bibi Netanyahu

IF you think that a guy with a history of abuse should not have been able to walk freely in society, then you need to change the "justice system".

In my little newspaper the police blotter is filled with drug dealers arrested with a history of dealing drugs, drunk drivers arrested with a history of driving drunk, murderers arrested with a history of murder, robbers arrested with a history of robbery...you get the picture.

Repeat offenders need to be killed. Parole boards and judges who release these animals back into society need to be given the tools to kill them, or held responsible for any acts these animals commit after their release.

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DIREINDEEDReply toBibi Netanyahu

You are so spot on. It's the same people committing the crimes over and over and over again. I agree, the justice system in this country does need to be changed because the current system just isn't working.

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clarencewReply toBibi Netanyahu

Finally a person who see it the way it really is. Get the lawmakers in gear and have them get the law right and really punish these people and not a slap on the wrist.

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dont_watch_FOX

Too bad she didn't get out when she could... but that's the thing—could she have "gotten out"? She had a family. It's just human instinct to keep a family—your family—together... and hope things get better. But this wasn't her fault, of course. It wasn't even the law's or the court's fault. It was his and his alone. What kind of man would kill the mother of his own children? Where does such a person come from? What the hell kind of "men" are we producing in this country?

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WandaReply todont_watch_FOX

I don't think we produced that one. Maybe look to Eastern Europe.

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clarencewReply todont_watch_FOX

Are you blind, it is the law. If they had placed him in jail and keep him there the first time he was arrested, he would not have been able to get to her. Laws should be so that the person is punished, not pushed to the side to allow these people out on the street.

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Me

Normally I would defend this women. Yes, it's terrible and it should not have happened! I was reading that he is due in court for an earlier abuse charge towards his wife. Ladies, I am a wife and mother, if your partner has a past or he/she abuses you, I don't think getting pregnant again is the best thing. Get out of the relationship, it will and does get worse! People think they can change someone, if we had a baby things will get better... well, she had 2 and was pregnant with the third and it only got worse. My heart breaks for her children, those poor babies have no parents now. People, if you're not happy then leave. Violence is not the answer and it scares the children for life.

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LAReply toMe

It might not have been her choice to get pregnant.

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MilReply toMe

LA she stayed with him, that was her choice. She could have seeked help to get out before becoming pregnant.

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MonicaBReply toMe

But she knew who she was married to, she should have left or asked her family to take her in. The problem is most women keep this stuff silent.

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mazinmets9Reply toMe

you know NOTHING about domestic violence... go educate yourself before blaming the victim * rolls eyes*

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LAReply toMe

None of you have been in abusive relationships apparently. I hope you never are.

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MeReply toMe

@mazinmets9 - I actually do know a thing or two (grew up in abusive house hold) It's the parents responsibility to protect their children. She was being abused and stayed with him (choice). We all make our choices. Im not blaming her for this, I'm saying that once you have children it's time to grow up and make the best choice for them. She SHOULD have stayed away from him! This is a lesson all women need to learn! Im a women, I have a daughter and I will teach her the same damn thing... leave, don't stay!

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DeniseReply toMe

And you can't talk to people who are "in love." They just don't listen.

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KaswanReply toMe

More than likely she was raped by her husband, which many people think is OK and legal.

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ELD

Hey future abusers, the next time you want to take it out on your spouse because you're a coward, don't be selfish, think about your kids first!

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ArcadianReply toELD

then tell her to just walk away, just walk away and she wont get hurt.

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lorelleReply toELD

How do you walk away when you are a prisoner? when you are told that you will be beaten to death, and so scared that you can't leave, and have no where to go. You know nothing about abusive.

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SusanReply toELD

I think Arcadian's comments are just to provoke a reaction. No one is that stupid, even if they're archaic.

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SusanReply toELD

ps @ Archaic. She did just "walk away, just walk away". Oops. She did get hurt.

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Ian RyanReply toELD

Susan, with stupid comments like that I'm surprise your not a victim of domestic abuse

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Marsali JohnstonReply toELD

The problem is, the abuser IS selfish. He (or she) may claim to care about the kids, but the only thing they care about is themselves.

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Skyler

So nobody was suspicious when he was 23 years old marrying a 17 year old girl? And that's when they got married so if they dated for 2 years before that's even creepier. First red flag. Second was the protective order before or after she got pregnant for the 3rd time with his child.

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Lockdown67Reply toSkyler

Not sure what state you're from but 17 is legal age to marry in a lot of states. And you may have noticed the names? I'm guessing neither were born here.

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SkylerReply toSkyler

Never said it wasn't legal. I stated that a 17 year old girl marrying a 23 man is a red flag. I think most people would agree.

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Stephen KReply toSkyler

Totally agree, Skyler! That was one of the first thoughts when I read the article. If they where together before they were married it would be statutory rape and a felony in my state. I also agree with Lock that they may be from a land where these ages would commonly get married. Too sad.

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leahReply toSkyler

lockdown67, It doesn't state they are from a different country. You may not be familiar with Minnesota.It has a huge Slovic,Norwegian ,and Russian population, Just because they come here to live, doesn't mean their last name changes

to Smith,Brown, or Jones.

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Lockdown67Reply toSkyler

Not so much a fed flag in Russia or Ukraine it isn't--or lots of different places in the US for that matter. But yes, that Old Country view along with reluctance of family help or her leaving despite the years of violence is another clue that they are likely 1st Gen. Some things make sense when you look at several pieces--even the ones strung together by bizarre use of commas, eh, Leah?

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Lib Divorced From Reality

This is why you need to be very careful marrying / having kids young. People have not yet fully developed until their early 30s. I am 30 now and boy thank god I did not marry the people I was dating back in my 20s because I would be miserable now. What you think is good for you in your 20s will most likely change. Unfortunately for her, she was abused and had kids with this man and probably felt like there was no place to go.

My advice go out and grow / mature as a person before you look to settle down with that "perfect" someone.

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TinaReply toLib Divorced From Reality

Domestic violence is not just for the "young". Many women and men suffer at the hands of people they trust. Once the mask falls off, the individuals that do these horrific things will continue until tragedy happens. Happy that you did not have to suffer, but many of us have and it wasn't because I was young and stupid, it was due to trusting someone that I loved.

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njReply toLib Divorced From Reality

I married my high school sweetheart and still in love and have a great relationship with 2 kids who are now college grads.

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debbieReply toLib Divorced From Reality

I have many friends who married their high school sweetheart and are still married today. I am 64 yrs old. So, it is not the age that is the problem, it is the person.

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sophie10Reply toLib Divorced From Reality

I married young too. We just had our third baby and even though our relationship isn't perfect and I know I drive him crazy especially when pregnant he's never paid his hands on me. Loves and respects me.

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Sean

It takes a special kind of dirt bag to murder a pregnant woman who has children, hopefully prison inmates will finish him off.

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Ian RyanReply toSean

Sean, hopefully they don't. Hopefully they bend him over a table and every inmate runs a train on him. Hopefully they take turns beating him every day. Hopefully the other inmates punch his teeth out then face f@$ked him. Hopefully he gets throat cancer for all the loads he is about to swallow

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clarencewReply toSean

Here we are again with prison, this man killed 2 people, why can he not die also? He has committed a hideous crime and prison is not punishment!!!

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Betty

How about we teach our girls to respect and love themselves so they can spot a predator and avoid him. Women who are in these relationships think they deserve to be abused because they don't know what love is.

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Ahhhh hell

Another innocent mother murdered and was simply given a piece of paper and told here's your protection. Yeah that worked out real F------ well. Woman being abused like this lady are going to have to protect yourself and your kids. Get a gun learn to use it and save your family. The restraining order is a joke in the eyes of a jealous husband or boyfriend. Those poor kids living the rest of there lives without there mother, all because of some selfish twit wasn't able to live up to his part of the relationship. Well if I can't have you nobody can. POS loser !!!

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ArcadianReply toAhhhh hell

well to be blunt here, you don't tell your soon to be EX, that you'll never see your kids again, and I'm going to take everything that you have. those lines tend to cringe a man! I wouldn't pass it though she did say something along those lines. Well Sad that he did take this route. Two more orphans in the mist.

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WandaReply toAhhhh hell

"Another innocent mother " .. How innocent really is any mother who does not move heaven and earth to protect her own children from a violent home life? I know all the excuses and realize my comment will likely be met with criticism but come on people!! Get off your #$%$ and do the right thing even if it hurts!! Protect the children if you don't care enough to protect yourself!

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LindaReply toAhhhh hell

@Wanda: If you've never been in her shoes, don't judge. It may sound simple to you that she didn't leave. But you weren't there. Her life was likely miserable & she lived in fear. And no doubt, also afraid of what he'd do if she left. May she RIP.

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kristaReply toAhhhh hell

Absolutely agree 100% Linda! Also praying for that baby boy who didn't get a chance at life. But he will forever be with his momma RIP

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WandaReply toAhhhh hell

Linda, been there. Not a coward and put my children first. You have no idea.

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zeaReply toAhhhh hell

@wanda : if u have nothing nice to say just shut up!!! dear Lyuba - RIP

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WandaReply toAhhhh hell

Same to you, zea. F off.

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WandaReply toAhhhh hell

I am not without sympathy for this woman or her truly innocent children. My heart breaks but I stand by my comments. Stop making excuses, teach strength and maybe she would be alive today.

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ElizabethReply toAhhhh hell

@Wanda, please do some research on Trauma Bonding and Stockholm Syndrome. Many of these woman have been abused and traumatized in their childhood (usually by parents who were alcoholics, have NPD, and very abusive). Many of these women are attracted to these men with antisocial personalities because they grew up in that environment and feel comfortable in it. Many of them also have PTSD. It's easy to say, "oh, why doesn't she just get out of that relationship?" Remember what happened when Nicole Simpson got out of "her" relationship? And mind you, SHE could afford to!

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WandaReply toAhhhh hell

Dear Elizabeth, you're preaching to the choir. I know all about it. Perhaps you should research and improve your reading comprehension?

I'm done here.

Rest in peace dear Lyuba.

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TonyFReply toAhhhh hell

Wanda, if you were really there, you would not pass blame on this victim. Thank you Linda!

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ejReply toAhhhh hell

Arcadian... Don't you MEN have any self control? How weak do you have to be if a woman, or anyone else, can say something to make you "CRINGE" so you can use that as an EXCUSE to kill them and your unborn baby? Is your manly pride more important than ruining your children's lives knowing they will have to live with the thought that their father stabbed and killed their mother? Oh I sincerely hope I didn't disturb you too much... wouldn't want you to go on a rampage like a murderous, overgrown baby.

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ElizabethReply toAhhhh hell

@TonyF - I totally agree with you.

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sabrinaReply toAhhhh hell

A piece of paper only works if both parties abide by it. She got pregnant AFTER the TPO was issued. If you are so afraid of your spouse that you NEED a TPO, you should sure as heck not be having sex with him. It happens far too often. I know. I was in an abusive relationship. you feel like you failed and you want to try and make it better. You can not make it better. You can not change someone. If you, as a non-mother, want to stay in this kind of relationship, then so be it. When you take on the responsibility of caring for a child, your personal emotions are no longer important when it comes to the safety of your children. It is your obligation as a parent to ensure that your children are safe. I am extremely sad that this happened and I am so sorry for these children who have to know their father killed their mother. I wish their was more education out there about help with dealing with these types of situations. There is a ton of help out there. The sad part is, the victim will not leave until they are ready or dead.

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Dolores

Here's the perfect example of why families and friends have to put up a ring of protection around an abuse victim. A protection order isn't worth the paper it's written on...and for whatever reason she appears to have stayed with him way too long. Domestic violence is an addiction. And just as drug addicts need greater amounts of drugs to get high...so an abuser steps up violence to get the "high"of abuse. The result is the drug addict overdoses....and the abuser murders their spouse. Wonder if anyone told her this.

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JennyReply toDolores

Uh, well she was 17 ish when she got married and not even 20 yet with her first child? What was the rush to get married and have kids so young? You don't even know yourself let alone who you are marrying?

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PatReply toDolores

I agree with your premise (very well stated) but reject your conclusion. Family and friends should and must interfere, if you will. Put simply, walking away is complicated and has many ramifications. Women who married at 34 yrs old are in similar situations.

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SusanReply toDolores

Jenny, I would guess he was bossy and controlling when they dated. People who are bullies know how to pick a person they can control and bully.

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lbuggy65Reply toDolores

I grew up with this and ended up WITH a man just like my father. It is a cycle that is difficult to get out of. People ask why do you stay, that is a very long story, especially if you have children.

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rn1Reply toDolores

Exactly. I was able to leave my abusive husband when my parents stepped in and got involved.

So unless you've been there, don't say what someone should or shouldn't have done.

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taraReply toDolores

I like the addiction perspective. I feel my children's father has addiction issues with various things. I have seen his verbal/emotional/manipulation/intimidation abuse increasing. I married him when I was in my early 30's. He had his mask on and had people fooled. I am now going through the courts for custody and pray he doesn't have them fooled. He has threatened to kill me, only to find out though this process back in the 90's he has an open police record of the same threats. It scares me to death to believe this addictions perspective for my children's case and this next women he is dating...and myself in the future, I can not walk away because he will always be in my life with our children.

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Maryellen GallowayReply toDolores

Someone probably told her this previously, but she,. unfortunately, was hoping for "a change" that never comes!

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JEREMY

a pathetic double murder and for lives destroyed. I hope they give him life so he can suffer with his regret and being hated by everyone.

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SherriReply toJEREMY

Life without parole.

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Ian RyanReply toJEREMY

Too bad he didnt do this on Texas. Those people would kill his #$%$

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clarencewReply toJEREMY

Sitting in prison is not suffering, it is a cakewalk compared to being dead.

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