Take a virtual tour of the REAL nativity scene: 360 video shows the birthplace of Jesus in Bethlehem

耶稣出生场景的视觉盛宴:360视频介绍耶稣伯利恒诞生
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Grandma Suze
All you non-believers commenting here, saying the story is nonsense - I take it you won't be bothering with Christmas, then? Or Easter, either. Why commemorate an event you don't believe in? Still, that should save you all some money, eh?
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The Moral ManagerReply toGrandma Suze
Why shouldn't rationalists enjoy what were originally pagan festivals, until the God Squad hijacked them. After all, Easter is named after the goddess ¿ostre.
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MadatterReply toGrandma Suze
Christmas and Easter are both pagan events taken hostage by religion.
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asiReply toGrandma Suze
I look both events, reminds me of my celtic ancestry - nice of the christians to carry on 'pagan' traditions though!
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Bryant Hedog
This site was proclaimed "The Site" by Constantine's mother-in-law, as she went to the Holy Land to scope out the place. This was as a result of him 'converting' to Christianity, starting what became the Holy Roman Empire, Christiansed pagan dates to bring non-Christians into the Empire, and he needed proofs to show them. Helena brought back enough wood of the 'true' Cross to make half-a-dozen of them, as well as reports of traditional sites that Christian pilgrims had been going to earlier. When the HRE became the Roman Catholic Church, the leaders, later popes, saw the potential for cash and control, ratified the places, relics and all, and the rest is, literally, history. I am a born-again, redeemed by Christ Christian, not a good one, but I don't accept this place as Christ's birthplace and, in a sense, it doesn't matter. Accept the story, or not, as you believe, but examine the reports in the Bible more carefully, and don't rely on hearsay. Merry CHRISTmas, everyone!
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spikeReply toBryant Hedog
Also the original Bethlehem now lies beneath the main road 5miles nth of here.
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Percival Plugsey
Stark contrast to the stable next door where Brian was born
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beeman
It is amazing how many God haters are out today.
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LeeWReply tobeeman
Welcome to the post intellectual era.
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davidnic
I guess all the hotels were full because of Christmas
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ChewyReply todavidnic
That sounds like the story I remember being taught at Sunday school......All the B&B's/Hotels where full as it was Xmas...but we did't start celebrating Xmas for a few hundred t years after Jesus was meant to have been born as a celebration of his birth!
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beckyh2502Reply todavidnic
Wasn't it because everyone had to go to Bethlehem to be registered? That's the story I was taught at school!
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Cardinal Jack
I look forward to seeing a re-run of the original Manger Extreme Makeover programme at Christmas...
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Dave the Atheist
That's a very posh stable. Rich inn keeper was he?
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Independence DayReply toDave the Atheist
Erm, are you being funny ?
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Juanhunglo
December 17th -23rd is the Roman festival of Saturnalia- Jesus was apparently born around July- they can't even get the date right let alone the place.
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bumblebeeReply toJuanhunglo
6 April actually!
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Bryant HedogReply toJuanhunglo
Here we go, that old chestnut. It is true, Christians would like to believe that Jesus was born on the 25/12/00, but we know He was NOT! You're right about Saturnalia, but other will point to the Solstice with the Druids, and other ceremonies worldwide. But, here's the thing - it's an Official Birthday, a Day to REMEMBER His Birth! Yes, it could have been any other time, but the early HRC chose that date to include Saturnalia/Mithras worshippers, because the Roman Empire OFFICIALY adopted Christianity as the State Religion.It stuck. But it runs into Yule, the festival of Midwinter which looks to the promise of Spring and new growth, rebirth of the earth or whatever you want to put your hope in.The Church Christianised it to include everyone, and ratified it!I don't care if you believe or not, but, if you celebrate this Season, that is what you're remembering, like or not. Of course, you can rant and rave from the cave you're in, reject it all, if you want.. sad, really.
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Titanium SkyReply toJuanhunglo
There isn't even any evidence he existed.
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Leli
"For unto us a Son is given..."
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OMG
Do people even know this is what Christmas is really about.
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anglofileReply toOMG
Oh yes they do Tesco's and Hamlets.
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Preserved LimeyReply toOMG
Hamley's! Yes, let's talk Hamley's. My belief is that Christmas is for children. I respect those who want to celebrate the true meaning. But, I also expect people to respect my way of celebrating Christmas, which is to give as I can to those in need and make it a special time for children. I was raised in this way.
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PhilReply toOMG
Prezzies!
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Uncle BillReply toOMG
It seems to be about pouty young mums buying 100 presents for each child.
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Miles Militis
His mother would have told Him where he was born, as yours probably did. Bethlehem (meaning house of bread) was only a small place, and a manger is for storing fodder. "I am the bread of life..."
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PeteReply toMiles Militis
and Nazareth where they supposedly lived wouldnt actually exist for another 900 years
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A LondonReply toMiles Militis
Pete and as you know towns used to move and relocate
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Miles MilitisReply toMiles Militis
People used to say the same about the Hittites not existing as it was only mentioned in the bible, until archeology unearthed an entire city.Then there's the Taylor Prism, which references King Belshazzar, or the Tel Dan Stele (Victory stone) giving evidence of King David defeating two kings in battle.
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wendy-uk
I went there a few years ago, something very humbling about it even if you're not a believer. There are thousands of years of history there.
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chris8910Reply towendy-uk
Well, the history is fine but to claim that that "might " be the birthplace of Jesus is a bit of a scam, there is absolutely no proof that Jesus ever lived and there is even less proof that he was the son of a god. The stories are really good but the vast majority of the bible is fiction made to sound like fact.
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Mustrum Ridcully
"including the manger where the baby lay" Except for the slight problem in that all the early Hebrew texts don't say that he was born in a barn or placed in a manger. it was mistranslated, that's the only reason we in todays times think he was.
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JamesReply toMustrum Ridcully
If you examine closely the early scripture you do find flaws in modern translation. It was often a need to translate a word for which there are no modern direct literal translations or an idea where there are no modern points of reference. King James Bible was a very good attempt. I always remember the 'wise men' who appear to have actually turned up at the house where Jesus was living two or so years after he was born! The Roman Church played upon many of these difficulties to create an image of Christianity for the public to whom they were administering. The nativity is said to have been such a creation supposedly by St Francis!
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JamesReply toMustrum Ridcully
If you examine closely the early scripture you do find flaws in modern translation. It was often a need to translate a word for which there are no modern direct literal translations or an idea where there are no modern points of reference. King James Bible was a very good attempt. I always remember the 'wise men' who appear to have actually turned up at the house where Jesus was living two or so years after he was born! The Roman Church played upon many of these difficulties to create an image of Christianity for the public to whom they were administering. The nativity is said to have been such a creation supposedly by St Francis!
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Slushypup
It may all be make believe to me but give me a virgin birth and wise men over prayer mats and extremism any day of the week!!
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Liverbird
Whether it's true or not let's all enjoy Christmas and try to be nice to each other .
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Uncle BillReply toLiverbird
Why specifically at Christmas? Why not all year round?
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TruthseakerthreeReply toLiverbird
It is true
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SMB
It means census NOTHING to do with refugees...................they were travelling to be counted in the Roman census, bureaucracy and taxes are eons old. The lack of knowledge about Christmas, the bible and the nativity is shocking.
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A LondonReply toSMB
I think some get confused when Jesus had to be taken to flee from the cull and Joseph had his dream.
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Janer
It probably wasn't quite so plush back then ......
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MayBlossom
Been there. It's just where they believe he was born. It's underground now. Spoilt when I was there by Japs doing their rushing in taking photo and dashing out.
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RobReply toMayBlossom
What an endearing term you use 'Japs'
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