Heartbreaking choice: The woman who terminated her baby to save her brother... but did she make the right ethical decision?

弃儿保弟,一个灰常艰难的决定!
Sophie Haslett For Daily Mail Australia

    Yang Li, 24, from Hangzhou City, was faced with an impossible decision
    Her brother, Yang Jun, has lymphoma and needed a marrow transplant
    Ms Li was recognised to be a perfect match for her 29-year-old brother
    However, experts told her it would hurt the baby and she had to choose
    The 24-year-old opted to save the life of her brother with family support
    Her decision has left Chinese social media polarised as a result[CN]

YANG Li, 24岁,来自杭州市,面临着一个两难的选择。她的哥哥,YANG Jun, 患有淋巴癌,需要接受骨髓移植。Li是她哥哥的绝配血型。但是专家告知此举会伤害到她待产的婴儿,她必须二者取一。24岁的她在家庭支持下选择了拯救她哥哥的生命。她的决定让中国社交媒体炸开了锅。

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Impossible: A pregnant Chinese woman, Yang Li (pictured with her brother) has chosen to save her brother's life over the life of her newborn baby after being faced with the decision[CN]

难以抉择:孕妇名为YANG Li(图为她跟哥哥的合照),在这种两难情况下选择了挽救自己哥哥的性命而放弃了自己新生孩子的性命。

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Expert view: She was found to be the perfect match as a bone marrow transplant for her brother, but was also warned that it would have a negative effect on her baby[CN]

专家观点:她的骨髓类型跟她哥哥是绝配,但是医生警告说捐献骨髓将会对她的婴儿造成负面影响。

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Divided: While Chinese social media has been divided since the decision became public, Ms Li did it with the support of her husband and in-laws

For most, it is a decision you would never have to make.[CN]

大多数人认为,这种决定是万万不会做得出来的。

But for a young woman from China, it was her only choice - whether to save her big brother's life or save the life of her unborn baby.[CN]

但对于这个来自中国的妇女,这是她唯一的选择 - 救哥哥的命还是救孩子的命?

Yang Li, 24, from Hangzhou City, was 12 weeks into her pregnancy, when she decided to give up her child so that she could provide a bone marrow transplant for her brother, Yang Jun, 29. 

Mr Jun suffers from lymphoma - he was diagnosed in September 2015. 

The doctors told the 29-year-old that his only chance of survival came in the form of a marrow transplant, to which followed the news that his sister, Ms Li, was a perfect match.

Sadly for the 24-year-old, after discussing the potential donation with experts, she was warned that donating marrow would have a significant negative effect on her child.

She was recommended to choose either her baby or her brother. 

With the support of her husband and her in-laws, Ms Li made the impossible decision to save Yang Jun.

She recently underwent abortion surgery in Hangzhou and is recovering.

The doctors will perform the marrow transplant surgery in the near future as soon as Ms Li's body is ready.

However, opinions on Chinese social media have been polarising, with some labelling the woman a 'hero' and others criticising her decision.

The majority believe it cannot have been an easy decision to make. 

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Stoat

Let's be clear....she didn't 'give up her child' as the article states. She killed her child. Euphemistically watering down the reality of 'abortion' (infanticide) by dancing around the truth only serves to cheapen all human life.[CN]

先搞清楚...她没有想这篇文章说的那样,放弃了自己的孩子。她谋杀了亲生骨肉。作者对“堕胎”轻描淡写,搬弄是非,无非是想贬低别人的性命罢了。

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DR_Reply toStoat

Back under your rock, you daft Yank.[CN]

回你的山洞去吧,你这傻逼美国佬。

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DR_Reply toStoat

Also, hearing an American trying to lecture others about the cost of life is ridiculous, when your nation does little but murder 1000's around the world daily...[CN]

一个美国佬大言不惭,试图对他人生命的价值指指点点,真是搞笑!你们国家没杀多少人,也就一天在全世界范围杀掉1000条命那样子。

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HunterThompsonReply toStoat

Stay in Seattle.[CN]

滚回你的西雅图去吧。

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CorinaReply toStoat

The brother shouldn't have expected her to kill her child. No matter how far along a baby is a baby. Never should have been put in that situation. It's a developing child. Some on this site act like no big deal she can try again. Like this baby is trash in their eyes.[CN]

她的哥哥不应该让她杀掉自己的孩儿的。不管才长多大,小孩终究是小孩啊。不该这么处理这件事情的。那是个还在发育之中的孩子啊。有人人就觉得,没事的,再生一个就行了嘛!说的好像这孩子在他们严重就像垃圾一样。

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Ade13Reply toStoat

@ corina - If by "baby" we mean an incredibly young sentient human, there wasn't one.[CN]

@ corina - 说到“婴儿”的概念,你指的是非常年轻的已拥有情感的人形,那是没有的。

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Aunt JasmineRoseReply toStoat

We are all killers and murders. Yup, insects, bacteria, meat eaters, grass, weeds, etc, etc. A life is a life. Human life doesn't trump any other life .[CN]

我们都是刽子手好吧。想想,昆虫、细菌。肉食者、青草、芦苇等等等等。生活就是生活。人的生命也没有那么珍贵。

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Magda

Wanna bet the baby was female? If she was expecting a boy and her /sister/ needed bone marrow... Hmmm...[CN]

我敢打赌这个孩子是女的。如果姐姐怀的是男孩,她姐姐需要骨髓移植...嗯嗯嗯...

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LegsReply toMagda

The baby was 12 weeks when the abortion took place. Although the gender is 'set' by 12 weeks it can't be accurately identified until at least 16-20 weeks. This was done for the love of her brother and not to abort a baby girl.[CN]

堕胎时这小孩才12周,尽管12周性别已经成型,但是精确鉴定至少得等到16-20周。她这么做是处于对自己哥哥的爱,而不是想打掉女孩。

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MagdaReply toMagda

Whatever. Amniotic fluid tests exist and are very accurate.[CN]

你吹吧你。羊膜水测试还是很精确的。

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Steffie31Reply toMagda

Magda -- whatever, sit down.[CN]

Magda - 随意吧,镇定镇定。

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TaylorsNextBoyfriendReply toMagda

I disagree with the OP, but Legs, you're talking specifically of ultrasound. You can tell the baby's gender 100% by 10 weeks now through amnitotic fluid (NIPT etc) tests now. They could have known if they'd chosen to, that's a fact, but I highly doubt it has any baring on this horrible decision she had to make.[CN]

我不同意OP的说法,但Legs,你讲的是超声波的特别使用吧。你现在10周后可以通过羊水100%的判别出性别。他们可能早就知道是男是女,这事是整句确凿的。但是我想这个决定做得出来,她应该没有什么心里负担。

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feluda

Your child needs your protection and you kill it to save another women's (your mother) child? What if you never get pregnant again? I know there are things like IVF, but that is not a guaranteed option. I was born to a women who put her brothers ahead of her children and I could never forgive her in so many years.[CN]

你的孩子需要保护,你为了救他人把他给杀了。如果你以后不能再怀孕了呢?我知道有样东西叫做试管受精,但是这也不保险。如果我母亲把她哥哥性命看得比我的还重要,我会很多年都原谅不了她的。

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PamReply tofeluda

Sounds like you're taking your disdain for your mother out on a stranger. She was 12 weeks. She could have easily had a miscarriage. It was the first trimester. It sounds like your mother did what she did after you were born. Different circumstances completely.[CN]

高的好像你在轻视你妈妈,视为陌生人一样。这孩子才12周。要做流产还很容易。还是妊娠早期。看来你妈生下你时才做出这种事情的。完全就是不同的情况嘛。

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annie m.

Hand on heart I, would have saved my baby.[CN]

没心没肺。我会选择救自己的孩子。

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Moomoo2611Reply toannie m.

Me to as a mother you need to protect the innocence of a child. Her brother at least had the chance of some life even if not very long.[CN]

我作为一个妈妈,需要保护孩子的无辜性命。即使他哥哥活得不长,至少他还有活着的机会。

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SputReply toannie m.

Me too.[CN]

我也这么觉得

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calicokittylady

If there's any justice, this cowardly man who would murder a defenseless child to save himself will die too. Is this sort of worthless weakling what passes for a man these days?! An uncle should PROTECT someone![CN]

如果有正义的话,这个懦弱的男人就谋杀了这手无寸铁的孩子以搭救自己。这就是现下男人身上那种卑微怯懦吗?叔叔不该保护侄女(侄子)吗?

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Aunt JasmineRoseReply tocalicokittylady

It's her decision, not his. And it's not for you to say either unless you have had such an experience. Very easy to sit home and type out your comment.[CN]

她自己的决定,轮不到你来说,除非你也有相同的经历。坐在家里发评论,谁不会啊?

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Emma_starReply tocalicokittylady

He didn't 'murder' anybody, she had a pregnancy termination by her own choice. You are entitled to be pro life but please stop accusing this poor guy of being cowardly and a murderer because that says more about you.[CN]

他没有杀谁,她妹妹自己选择不要小孩。你们可以对别人生活说三道四,但是请别再指责这个男人是懦夫啦,是杀人凶手啦。你自己才是呢!

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DiddyReply tocalicokittylady

Jesus. You are a right loon.[CN]

天呐,你就一傻逼。

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Fogleg Horndog

I would never ask my sister, or anyone else, to murder their child so I could live. I'd rather die.[CN]

我绝不会为了苟活去求我妹妹(或其他人)牺牲自己小孩。那样的话,我宁愿死。

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Ursus_RexxReply toFogleg Horndog

Re: "...I'd rather die...." {Fogleg Horndog, Texas, U.S.}Fine with me...As long as you DON'T stick your nose into other's lives, if/when they choose to abort, and / or, get pregnant again, later![CN]

重复一遍:“我宁愿死"(来自美国德州洪多格区Fogleg)要死你就死吧。你那麽八卦他人生活干嘛,他们选择流产,迟些再生,你吹啊?

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ggdentistReply toFogleg Horndog

A child isn't a child until it's born. It's a collection of cells.[CN]

婴儿还没出事之前不叫婴儿。只是细胞的结合体。

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MissAussie2013Reply toFogleg Horndog

You've obviously never heart an unborn babies heartbeat or seen it moving around on an ultrasound. Never felt it kick or react to sounds outside the womb. It is a baby from the moment it is created. It's a life.[CN]

明显你就没有听过未出生孩子的心跳或者在超声波上看过他的移动。也没感觉过他踢或者对子宫外边声音的反映。形成之日它就已是婴儿。那就是一条生命。

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Becky21

Ur brother has lived life... We r all going go depart from this world eventually. As an adult i would save the baby. As a parent you should choose your child. They always come first!!! Nothing or no one else. The brother should have been the bigger person here. Really sad. Just because you cant see the baby dying or he/she being murdered don't mean its ok. Its really common sense ... but then again we human beings tend to like what is evil. We paint what is evil and make it look pretty.[CN]

你哥哥活得已经够长了。我们最终都会死去的。作为一个成年人我会选择救小孩。作为父母,你应该选择要孩子。孩子是第一位的!没有其他东西和其他人可以比拟的。这篇文章里头,哥哥成为了更重要的人。真是悲剧。并不因为你看不到,谋杀婴儿就可以顺理成章了。这是常识啊...但是我们人类往往就是喜欢邪恶一点的东西。我们装饰邪恶的东西,使其外表光鲜。

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TruthcanhurtReply toBecky21

You sound selfish. She could always have other children, but there's only that one brother.[CN]

你好自私啊。孩子可以再生,哥哥只有一个。

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Aunt JasmineRoseReply toBecky21

That's your personal view as she has one too. Until you encountered such an experience, it's non of anybody but her business/decision.[CN]

那只是你的个人一间,她自己也有自己的。除非你有碰上这种情况,她做的决定跟其他人无关。

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nullReply toBecky21
I love the way the "never abortion" people don't care about the people around them.
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JehovahsWitness
Life is a gift from God. It should never be terminated.
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Happy DudeReply toJehovahsWitness
Prove your deity exists and I will then believe every word you tell me! Until then, please keep your subjective advice to yourself.
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K lolzReply toJehovahsWitness
Happy Dude, can't say I completely agree with JW's thoughts, but if you don't want to read peoples comments, stay away from the comment section.
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Happy DudeReply toJehovahsWitness
@ K: Is it not the point of the comments section to respond, challenge or rebut the comments made? Or is this merely a forum where ones comments can not be challenged? That's what I thought the reply icon was for. Oh silly me! People reply to my comments, so I am free to do the same.
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mimmadReply toJehovahsWitness
Happy Dude it is all about faith. JWs comment is entirely valid.
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Happy DudeReply toJehovahsWitness
I am quite well rehearsed in what it's all about and my statements are entirely valid too. It's a public forum. People must expect their statements or assertions to be challenged. To not expect so, would be arrogant.
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back in OZ nowReply toJehovahsWitness
Neither should her brother's. So which is it to be then? You think it's OK to sacrifice the strong change of saving her brother's life for her unborn child? I don't think we can say, it was her decision and what a dreadful one it was for her. I just hope and pray they manage to save her brother now. As for being a JW, please keep your rigid awful beliefs to yourself. You are nothing less than murderers when you refuse blood transfusions and yet you eat meat and don't tell me it's bled, the red in the meat is blood. Hypocrisy at it's worst. And without them I wouldn't be alive as I had open heart surgery last year. You would say I should have died. Is that be respectful to life? Yet it didn't hurt anyone to give it. I used to.
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ayala11
The brother shouldn't ever ask or accepted his sister's decision.
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Kelly KennedyReply toayala11
Did you ever think the brother may have wife and kids depending on him she was only 12 weeks may not have known about pregnancy when tested so much you don't know
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Steffie31Reply toayala11
My niece just found out she's preggers, at 12 weeks. She didn't even know. It's quite possible she didn't even know she was pregnant until she went for the bone marrow testing. Nevertheless, it's completely up to the mother to decide. I doubt her brother asked her to abort the baby to save his life. She found out the bone marrow transplant would harm the foetus and she made a decision on her own, after consulting w/ her husband and in laws. We should all be so selfless.
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always_sour
I'm assuming she was pregnant with a girl...
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Mrs You Know Who
People saying she can just have another baby goes to show how flippant and uncaring we can be about the unborn. Each child conceived is unique in their DNA and their personage. She may have another baby but it will never be that child. No child born or unborn is replacable.
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SandraReply toMrs You Know Who
And don't you think there will be a day goes by that she won't think about the child she could have had?? She is one brave lady and doesn't need others opinions sending her on a guilt trip.
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Michael
As this didn`t seem to be done anytime soon judging by the fact they are waiting for her body to recover, perhaps she could`ve had the baby THEN donated?
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MagdaReply toMichael
The anaesthesia would have been harmful for the baby.
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dogged
Donating bone marrow wouldn't endanger a foetus! The cells can be harvested under local anaesthetic. What kind of doctors are that stupid??
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Steffie31Reply todogged
It would hurt the proper development of the foetus. Idiot.
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Bogdan_W
So a potentially healthy baby has been killed to give a dying 29 year old a chance at life but no guarantees and people are ok with this. If I was dying I would not allow my sister to terminate the life of her child for me.
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LovelyLLReply toBogdan_W
It was not a baby. It was a tiny foetus in the progress of developing. Her brother is a human being & is alive. She can have another baby. She cannot bring her brother back once he's dead. Shame on you for being so judgmental.
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Darcie-t
Having a child today is just a social appendage. Means nothing anymore to people. easy come easy go.
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hedjuk1
Don't hurt the baby. Kill it. WTF?!
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AliceInSydneyLand
Heartbreaking, but she can always try for another baby. You can't ever try for another brother.
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Sput
So, she chose certain death for her child, so she could offer her brother a chance at life. Poor baby.
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back in OZ nowReply toSput
Not you AGAIN. You've already said it, now please go away. It wasn't your decision, it was hers. End of story.
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Cheesuscrust
I think it's Wong
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JulianReply toCheesuscrust
hahaha brilliant !!!
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hedjuk1
She could have given bone marrow and kept the baby. Probably wouldn't have had the slightest effect on the pregnancy.
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tinkerbelleReply tohedjuk1
you a Dr???
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Colston HallReply tohedjuk1
So where did you get your medical degree?
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LovelyLLReply tohedjuk1
If you knew anything about what's involved in a bone marrow transplant you would be thinking a lot differently. It's not a movie!
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