The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle

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Indian Arts
on Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:28 | 821

I knew it, at last only bla bla bla will come from such idiots, especially when they are cornered.

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indian strategy
on Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:12 | 822

@ idiot indian arts I answered your question many times. Even my posts 817 and 819 answer your question in details but as you just copy and memorize but can’t analyze due to your low IQ you also can’t understand the answer. You and the other Indians can only what demagogy is. That is exactly what you are doing from the beginning.

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Astro
on Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:20 | 823

Read on - Chinese Infrastructure.

In the northeastern city of Harbin a bridge ramp collapsed on Friday, killing three and injuring five. The collapse was particularly shocking because the Yangmingtan Bridge was built at a cost of $300 million less than a year ago. The collapse is particularly worrisome because it follows several similar recent infrastructure failures. The Beijing News reports it was at least the seventh bridge to collapse in little over one year.

@Indian Arts, You need to choose the right people and right forum for such subjects, Talk to people who are fluent, probably in an economists forum. Do not talk to ordinary people, that is why I pick to respond. Ignore them if they are not in sync with you. If a dog bites you, will you bite back the dog? so just leave it at this stage before it gets too ugly.

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indian strategy
on Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:22 | 824

@ indian arts when I said ‘find idiots like yourself then play role as if you know anything’ you don’t need to go far away. You can make do primary school level arguments in economics with idiot astro. I don’t like to make this confession but he has lower IQ than even you. So you don’t need to be embarrassed much. However if you are brave enough to copy and bring our conversation to an economics professor he will tell you that you couldn’t understand the subject. No, absolutely you don’t. On the other hand I don’t know much about India and China. I don’t have any bias for the citizens of any country. But what I witnessed in this forum and the other Indian forums was that there are too many liars from India. I hope they don’t represent all the Indians (if they do it is really bad news) because though there is no research I expect the Brahmins to have higher verbal/math scores than the Chinese and the other East Asians.

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Indian Arts
on Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:01 | 825

@Astro, Yes you are right, I don’t care any more about that stupid asshole. I will be more picky henceforth and will only respond to people who are smart enough to carry a conversation and stick into the context and more over with the guys who know about India and China. I don’t know why these stupid assholes comments on countries which they don’t know or they had not been to ( according to their own version). Then why these assholes have to be in this forum if they do not know the head and tail of these countries. You are right on your 807th post, I would like to add some thing more to it divergent thinking also needs first hand experience on top of academics. This stupid guy don’t even know unknowingly he has accepted the PPP limitations, by saying PPP errors are an advantage for rich countries , what is this mean? this means which in turn creates a disadvantage for poor countries which is again biased is the whole point. No one can deny the limitations of the PPP. You might have noticed I keeps on talking of the limitations of PPP but this stupid guy lecturing on what is PPP again and again, what an Idiot.

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indian strategy
on Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:26 | 826

@ idiot arts
besides your grammar mistakes almost in every sentence you need to take a translator for every sentence. He has to explain word by word every sentence to you but I have no doubt that even that wouldn’t help you. I have never said that PPP errors were an advantage for the rich countries but I said that there was no NECESSITY that the PPP errors would work in favor of the poor countries proving that the PPP errors can not still be an excuse for the cost of living. The errors can also work in favor of the rich countries. The 2 sentences are different and they mean different things. Your English is completely terrible but the bigger problem is your low IQ because I am sure that even if anyone explains the mechanism even in your mother language you will still be unable to understand because of your low IQ as it is above your mental capacity. I am not saying this for insulting you but you indeed have a low IQ level. There is no need to go further because I know even if I explain 10 times you will not understand. There is no need trying to teach economics to a monkey. And never think that I explain anything for you, I do for the other people reading this forum. You are worth nothing, a big zero! You can have good friendship with idiot astro. You deserve each other.

One said the Chinese aren’t good (!) in English. ı think they are far better than the Indians on average. You can count the grammar mistakes above if you stand reading idiot arts’ post.

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Astro
on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 03:46 | 827

@Indian Arts leave it, It seems you have not taken into account of my post #824, Give room to others, you guys hogged up this forum. Why do you want to talk to guys who do not know about India and China. Talk to Chinese / Indian fellows only they are far better. The future is only for us Indians and Chinese. I said good bye to this guy long ago. He may try to provoke you again but just ignore.

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HanSlaveTrader
on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:09 | 828

Han Chinese have the lowest IQ amongst East Asians. That’s why the Mongols (a small minority) ruled the significantly larger majority ethnic Chinese people for a 100 years. Then another teeny weeny minority - the Manchus - ruled the racially inferior Han Chinese for another 268 years…a grand total of 368 years under foreign domination. Soon after that the Japs with 1/10th the population of China beat them nice & thorough & considered the Han Chinese sub-human beings. Lucky for the Han Chinese the Americans defeated the Japs. Otherwise today the Chinese language would be like Latin, almost extinct…with all Han Chinese speaking Japanese. On the other hand, Native Australians have been ruled by the Whites from 1788 to 2012…a total of 224 years. Meaning the Han Chinese must truly be sub-human to have been subjugated the longest. Therefore I conclude that the Han Chinese must certainly have an IQ lower than 60. An luckily for East Asia…they have such brilliant people like the Koreans & Japanese to pull up their IQs. Banzai!

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Indian Arts
on Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:52 | 829

@Astro, that is fine man. Point noted.

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Global Tributal System
on Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:07 | 830

Posted by HanSlaveTrader on August 30, 2012, 11:09 AM | #

Han Chinese have the lowest IQ amongst East Asians. That’s why the Mongols (a small minority) ruled the significantly larger majority ethnic Chinese people for a 100 years. Then another teeny weeny minority - the Manchus - ruled the racially inferior Han Chinese for another 268 years…a grand total of 368 years under foreign domination. Soon after that the Japs with 1/10th the population of China beat them nice & thorough & considered the Han Chinese sub-human beings. Lucky for the Han Chinese the Americans defeated the Japs. Otherwise today the Chinese language would be like Latin, almost extinct…with all Han Chinese speaking Japanese. On the other hand, Native Australians have been ruled by the Whites from 1788 to 2012…a total of 224 years. Meaning the Han Chinese must truly be sub-human to have been subjugated the longest. Therefore I conclude that the Han Chinese must certainly have an IQ lower than 60. An luckily for East Asia…they have such brilliant people like the Koreans & Japanese to pull up their IQs. Banzai!
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I found its funny especially considering the fact China dominating asia for the past 5000 years and take the most profitable land of entire east asia, only leaving deresets and wasteland to the rest ethincs, and more amusing, leave a huge Y-DNA marker (the male-side ancestors) to the rest asian ethnics ( which confirmed they have fucked up the rest of the asian ethnnics for the most part of the history).

Actuaally China is the only civiliazaiton that has ever beaten the largest hordes of nomads despite of the fact most nomads in the world originated some 200 km away from China.

As even you may have figured out with your inferior iq brain, in the past China has only lost to nomads for the sample reason nomads has lots of horses which happened to be a major weapon in the cold-weapon area, and dont make me start how the defeated few nomads who retreating all their ways from China to west europe has absolutely ZERO problem fucking the europeans for the past thousands of years despite of the fact the Europeans outnumbered these few wondering nomads to 100:1, from Huns to Turks to Mongols, they ussually sent 20k to no more than 50k nomads to beat the crap out of 200 million europeans at that time ( as a matter of fact, the Roman empire along has 150 million population).

And europeans failed to remove the presence of asian nomads (usually these who have beaten badly by Chinese empires and flee 10000 km from their hometown to the europe like the Huns and Turks) after 1500 years.

No wonder Europeans can only win wars after they have enjoyed a significant lead in the weaponary they used.

As for China lost to Japan? Actually Japan failed everytime they fought with China for the past 2000 years, despite of the fact each time they sent 5x-10x more menpower to fight China, the only time Japan begin to win some fight against China is the time China’s tech power were surpassed by Europe and Japan only win by copying the their then tech master Europeans.

So just like europeans, japan dont have any idea of fighting unless they enjoy a significant lead in the weapon they used.

But I am not sure if Japan can surivie with the return of the boss of Asia, and this time, the boss of the world too, hahaha.

As for the trivial fact of IQ, Lynn’s latest book on global iq titled: “IQ and Global inequalities”, list China’s IQ as 105 at the time China is still developing, ranked top 2-3 in the world, and the developed part of China like Hong Kong or Singpoare has a IQ of 108 for the ethnic Chinese there, which ranked as world highest.

No wonder China has dominated asia for the past 5000 years and improved gene quality of their vassal states by fucked the locals up, give 30% or more of the lcoal suhhuman their male-side y-dna as proved by countless DNA studies, HAHAHAAHA.

As for indians, they are just a loser country with a confirmed low iq, there is simply no comparison between the far far superior Chinese and the much less evolved indians, thats a fact that we all know.

 

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Global Tributal System
on Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:18 | 831

By the way, most mongolians and all manchurains speaks Chinese now after Chinese slaughtered at least one half of their entire populations, and half mongolia and all manchuria’s terrority belong to China now.

I suspect the japanese fate will be similar to these nomads, althrough I suspect if japanese can being just as luck as them, after all I doubt China will be that grace to spare one-half of jap population’s alive after they take over japan in the near future, hehehe, afterall in the past Chinese dont consider japanese as humans, they call them as wo-slaves or wo-monkeys, and the funny part is even the japanese themeselves adopted such names and called themselves wo-slaves or wo kingdom, so there is nothing wrong to kill some monkeys into extincation afterall, hahaha

As for the not-so-rare case lowly indians who dont have any confidence of being a lowly evolved indians thus pretending to be a jap monkey (its usually the case for indians who has too huge an inferiority complexity to admit themselves as indians, instead of someone else), we all know indians are less evolved races, thats why you dont even have the nerve to admit you are a indians whilst I am being quite confortable to point this out as a member from a highly evolved human ethnic, to be honest I feel pity for you,hehehehe.

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Surrogacy India
on Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:59 | 832

China has achieved lot in field of inventions but they lack in basic Science.It’s technology or manufacturing works where China is probably the best in the world along with Japanese.

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Astro
on Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:59 | 833

@Global Tributal System,

First and foremost a lot of spelling and grammatical mistakes in your post, seems verbally you are not evolved at all, clear that first then one of us will reply to you in full. I don’t think @hanslave trader is an Indian, could be a Japanese. Why an Indian wants to praise Japanese or Korean, think first and then post. I can shut your mouth with one sentence. How could your highly evolved Chinese forefathers followed Buddhism for thousands of years from lowly evolved Indians ?, so in that case they might have been number one highly evolved idiots.

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HughEMC
on Sun, 09 Sep 2012 04:47 | 834

Psychological,Socio-economical factors are allways taken in account(or ignored) but the one factor a never see any take into account is the East Asian writting system. They are the only peoples who use symbols for an entire word instead of a combination of symbols that equal a phonetic sound to creat a word. This means an East Asian must memorize over 3000(at least) to read in his culture. Every were else in the world people use a alphabet based writting system. As in America East Indains only have to remember 26 to 45 symbols(give or take a few) to writre and or read. For any of use who has taken a IQ test it is heavly comprised of quanitive and numerical symbols. I believe East Asians due to the fact their very lanquage calls for them to memeorize..not 26 not 45 but up to 7,000 symbols have in a way trained for these types of IQ test from the fisrt time they start learning to read. The fact is that East Asians score amongst the highest and they are the only people who have this unique form of written lanquage. The only group that scores higher is Ashkinazi Jews who have a very unique cultural mind set. I would like to see an IQ study that test people of East Asian decent who have never learned to read or write in a East asian script. I would lay good money thet the IQ scores would be signifantly lower.

I am glad to see this post pointing out the true intelligence of East Indians and how it conflects with their IQ scores

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HughEMC
on Sun, 09 Sep 2012 05:44 | 835

I am amazed by the amount of racist I find on the internet. I guess if some supposed scientific research said I was smarter and had a bigger brain than the person I subjugated, pressed and enslaved I would embrace that research as well. It just proves that the person I stepped on had it coming. It just explains why that person is on the lower bottom of the rung. Its not because I purposely held him back or any thing like that…noooo. If fiund it just a little convient that all this so called data points to the exact results racist want. With all the genocide and oppression Id think Blacks IQ would be lower if there was a genetic component because there certainly is a socia-economical/envirometal element… As for those who like to point out the bigger brain IQ correlation this is a bit of enlightening information

http://news.rutgers.edu/focus/issue.2012-02-02.7844909214/article.2012-02-14.7247023894

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CL
on Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41 | 836

If our language is so simple, why have you butchered it?

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Astro
on Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:09 | 837

@ HughEMC , Since no one responded to your 835 post, let me answer you. Definitely the symbolic representation of a word in Chinese enhances the spacial IQ and that is the secret, Only Chinese, Japanese and Koreans use this, all other orientals use alphabets just like the Indo-European system even though they are from the same race. but you are missing a point, take English it may have only 26 letters but there are 500000 to 1 million words and still it is growing, need not to add any characters and make it cumbersome. We have to remember words than characters, an average English speaking person has to remember atleast 2000 words so your point in remembering the characters is not valid rather than the ability in differentiating the Chinese characters which can boost the spacial IQ is true.  Chinese method is a primitive method just like the Roman numerals in mathematics, one to one correspondence, where the Indo-European system is more creative just like the Indian decimal system. That is why I said Chinese are not creative, Creativity is always linked with verbal IQ, with just 10 decimals we can create millions and billions of numbers the same way with 26 alphabets. What is intelligence ? doing it in an easy way or in a cumbersome way ?. This also substantiate the point that hereditary has no play in IQ. In order to get a true picture every sample must have an equally true representation of linguistically and mathematically conversant group for an IQ test which has never happened so far. Forbes test comes a little bit closer that is it. No point in foolishly trying to correlate with Chinese and Brahmins as they are two extremely different people in every aspects.

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realist
on Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:10 | 838

@ astro
Quit being a supremacist. You are no different than those who wear the white robe and hood. Your hypothesis is just that, an unproven, wishful thinking. Fyi, civilizations rise and fall. The Chinese, like other great civilizations, are as creative as anyone else. They have created great amount of priceless art works and inventions.  I’d suggest you visit a world class museum, to appreciate their contributions to the art and science world. Btw, read up on marco polo and his trip to China.

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Night Club Las Vegas
on Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:36 | 839

You are no special than those who wear the white negligee and hood. Your guess is just that, an not proven, wishful belief.

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Astro
on Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:37 | 840

@ realist/ NCLV, Oh I was away, You are wrong , I have never supported any Supremacist, I was always against the idea in linking the IQ to any specific race. I have only defended and stood against Supremacist, in the process it is natural to boost the exceptional factual’s which may yield superiority but it is not intentional. If you go through my other posts then you will know it as day light. Yes civilizations rise and fall and every civilization has its own share in contributions, it is a fact. Your quote—“Your hypothesis is just that, an unproven, wishful thinking” can you elaborate on it?, probably we may have a turn for contemplating on it ?

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