By this age, they should really know how to cheat better than this. These are med students, not art students. The politicians should be teaching cheating classes.
Does anybody think that, having uncovered one such cheating situation in Thailand, we can think it is a local Thai problem. Likely we are now seeing the tip of the iceberg. We need to devise a strategy to defeat this and it needs to be done now.
They always Support to glorify dictator (instigate military to coup) take put a good to themself and put evil to him, profaned Royal (embed sanitary napkin under King 5), the frog select for leader (expel Thaksin for welcome Abhisit then to expel Abhisit for after) take the political are out destroy to International politics . Change the commercial market has become a battleground. They just like any dog getting used to the dictator only.
@Paul - you wouldn't know. Did you talk to your doctor about what place he graduated medical school? Did you have that conversation before or after you've visited his/her office?
As the joke goes - "what do you call a doctor that finishes last in med school?"
I've been to Thai doctors who gave horrible mis-diagnosis.
Had one tell me my tonsils were were swollen even though I had them removed and they haven't come back. Too many stories to tell here relayed by others to me.
@Anthony - you are right, I wouldn't know - if I WENT to a Doctor. Part of the reason I have done my best to avoid them for 50 some years...................and probably a factor in my health, too.
The doctors there just perscribe dangerous drugs that the FDA in America would never even consider approving. They're terrible! If in the country and have a health issue, there are some American doctors in Bangkok and other big cities. You should look them up before going.
On the other hand, the Doctors here just prescribe whatever medicine pays them best and the FDA approves whichever company paid THEM the most to "approve" the public experimentation.
While working in Thailand I was invited by a teacher friend to give afew lectures. Before starting I was told there will be afew students who are "untouchables". Ignore them, Dumb as rocks but at least rocks don't waste oxygen. Basically these kids will keep passing and graduate because of who they are related to or the generosity of their families.
Laura Bush killed a guy when she was 18. Funny how that was forgotten. Oh and how about the 6 deferments that #$%$ Cheney got for Vietnam? How many un-fortunate sons died because of that #$%$ #$%$ chickenhawk republicans ruining America.
Losing face is serious business in Asia, but in Thailand it can become deadly. Rich Thai parents will buy their kids prestige and accolades if they have to especially if your kid isn't the brightest. Cheating and bribery is part of everyday Thai way of life. That's why their educational and political system is among the among the most corrupted in the world. Rich kids get away with everything even murder!
It's funny until that doctor faces a patient with the conditions and symptoms that he had to cheat about on the test. THEN, too late, it's a patient who pays the price for the cheater's indiscretion.
Why wouldn't they be able consult a colleague, medical books or even Google at that point? I mean, I would really be pissed if I had an ailment that puzzled my Dr. and he/she didn't pursue any other avenues to find out the prognosis.
I teach High School Math and Physics in Texas, and unfortunately, the majority of the cheaters are the smarter kids, since they are trying to max out their GPA to get into a good college.
The rest of the kids won't go to the trouble of cheating, and many genuinely don't care if they get a zero.
I get what you're saying, but I do want to say this: When I was working toward an engineering degree, we were forced to write out equations and such with the explanation that if we lost power, blah blah... I'm over 50 years old, and I've never had to design anything complex without a calculator or a computer program. The only real value I can see would be knowing how to structure an equation on a calculator, but even then the program calc's the k factors etc. Seems like a lot of time wasted...just say'in.
@Mike - you should grow a pair and give any caught cheaters zeroes as well as have them suspended from school.
Instead, you like your job, and are told (or implied) that you will lose your job if too many of your students fail.
I've seen it far too many times in classrooms where teachers let cheaters slide. It's that lackadaisical attitude that creates the very society that we rail against.
In north America that doctor is in Canada!!!! And he charges the government an arm and a leg while treating you his patient as utter #$%$!!!!!! Oh, and he/she can harm even kill you and he/she will never lose his license!!!! Because doctors are saints in Canada and are protected by the government!!!! So much for a government for the people!!! And protecting patients!!!!
Alexander same in Germany they are 90% sons of doctors that could not pass in regular school if not for the name that guarantees he can be a doc and let loose on people. Should be a crime and NO liability in Germany as a matter of fact it is LEGAL for the doc to later change his records.
in my medical school graduating class there were three kinds of doctors: 1) those to whom i would send a family member for invasive treatment; 2) those to whom i would send a family member for routine care or a prescription and; 3) those who i would not allow to trim my toenails. in the first group there were exactly three of my classmates. in the second group, perhaps a couple dozen. and in the third group, well over a hundred. most doctors are somewhere between marginally incompetent and frankly inept. and in case you were wondering, an ivy league degree or other high-prestige credential doesn't change the math.
So if I go to the hospital and a Thai doctor comes to treat me, am I still a racist if I refuse treatment??? What if the doctor looks Thai? Am I a racist if I ask his nationality??? How about any of these Asian or even other nationalities??? This problem is not isolated to Thailand. Many other nations do NOT monitor nor train their people like we in the U.S. expect and assume. The American public has to realize that with all this P.C. behavior and laws that their health and lives are in serious jeopardy.
"Many other nations do NOT monitor nor train their people like we in the U.S. expect and assume" - Do you actually think that people in the U.S. do not cheat?
Be careful. you can't judge everything from this stupid news of cheating kids. I had a Thai doctor in Arizona; he actually went to Harvard for practices after MD. He was great and went to the best medical school in Thailand.
My Indian doctor here (who got MD in India) in Penn is also better than my Caucasian doctor in Montana who went to UCLA.
You most certainly have a right to ask and should do so!!! It is your health. Oh, and from my experience indian doctors and I have had many of them are terrible!!!! Soooo cocky!!!!
Pjoseph, doctors in countries such as Thailand cannot simply come and practice here in America at least passing the USMILE. They won't be able to cheat on that
Actually it is the methods they use to teach and no accountability rather than qualified. Methods can be taught to these teachers and accountability can also. Qualified is such a misused term.
