Old bones cast new light on Goliath's people

骨骼化石带来有关歌利亚巨人的新发现
Ashkelon (Israel) (AFP)

With an excavation in southern Israel unearthing a Philistine cemetery for the first time, bones of the biblical giant 's people can finally shed new light on mysteries of their culture.[CN]

首次对以色列南部一腓力斯人墓穴的挖掘收获骨骼化石,让我们对圣经巨人的文化之谜有了进一步的发现。

The cemetery's discovery marks the "crowning achievement" of some three decades of excavations in the area, the expedition's organisers say.[CN]

该墓穴的发现是在此地区进行约三十年考古工作所取得的“最高成就”,考察发起者说道。

Some of the site's finds were going on display Sunday at the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum in Jerusalem.[CN]

部分现场考察成果将于星期天在耶路撒冷的洛克菲勒考古博物馆展出。

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US archaeologist and Harvard University professor Lawrence E. Stager sits next to skeletons at the excavation site of the first Philistine cemetery ever found, in southern Israel[CN]

在以色列南部首次发现的腓力斯人墓穴考古工作现场,美国考古学家兼哈佛大学教授Lawrence E. Stager坐在人体骨骼旁边

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Almost three millennia since the Philistines were wiped off the face of the earth by Babylonian armies, a US archaeologist was hard at work crouched in one of their funerary chambers at the excavation in the Mediterranean city of Ashkelon.[CN]

腓力斯人被巴比伦军队从地球上清除殆尽约三千年后,在地中海城市阿什克伦,美国一名考古学家蹲在他们的一块埋葬地旁努力开展着考古工作。

Brush in hand he delicately extracted from the sandy soil the complete skeleton of a Philistine buried with a terracotta perfume flask, fused to the skull with the passage of time.[CN]

他手持刷子,仔细地从沙土中淘出一具完整的腓力斯人骨骼,一同出土的还有一个陶制香水细颈瓶,瓶子随着时间的流失与头骨融合在了一起。

"This discovery is a crowning achievement, the opportunity to finally see them face to face," said archaeologist Daniel Master, in charge of the site excavated since 1985 under the Leon Levy Expedition, affiliated with Harvard University's Semitic Museum, among other institutions.[CN]

“这个发现是最高成就,终于有跟他们面对面的机会了”,考古学家Daniel Master说道,他是现场挖掘工作负责人,挖掘工作从1985年开展至今,由哈佛大学闪族博物馆附属机构利昂·利维科考队,协同其他机构进行。

"With these 145 corpses we hope not only to understand their funeral customs, but to collect clues in the bones to understand how they lived, to bring the Philistines to life again," he told AFP.

Bone samples taken from the site are currently undergoing DNA, radiocarbon and other tests to try to shed fresh light on the Philistines’ origin.

The first graves were discovered in Ashkelon in 2013 on the site of its ancient Philistine port city, which had 13,000 inhabitants at its peak.

Today the area lies in a national park popular with Israeli families from modern Ashkelon who come for a stroll along the seaside lawns and paths.

- Sea people? -

Who were the Philistines? The origins of this "sea people" -- a term also used to describe their Phoenician contemporaries -- remain a mystery.

Their red-and-black pottery suggests they may have come from the Mycenaean civilisation of the Aegean.

"What is certain is that they were strangers in the Semitic region," where their presence between 1200 and around 600 BC is evident on a thin coastal strip running from present-day Gaza to Tel Aviv, said Master.

Traders and seafarers, they spoke a language of Indo-European origin, did not practice circumcision and ate pork and dog, as proven by bones and marks found on them in the ruins of the other four Philistine cities: Gaza, Gath, Ashdod and Ekron.

Beyond the previously scanty archaeological record, the Philistines are known mostly from the Old Testament account given by their neighbours and bitter enemies, the ancient Israelites.

The book of Samuel describes the capture by Philistine fighters of the Ark of the Covenant and the duel between their giant warrior Goliath felled by a stone from David's sling.

From these biblical descriptions of savage marauders comes the modern usage of "philistine" to mean a person without culture or manners.

- Hard lives -

A few hundred metres (yards) from the dig, at its outdoor laboratory, anthropologist and pathologist Sherry Fox told the skeletons' story.

"In their teeth, we can see that they did not have an easy life," she said.

"We see these lines that indicate a growth interruption as the teeth are forming. There were problems in childhood with either fever or malnutrition."

"We also see from their bones that they were hard workers, they practised inbreeding and they used their teeth as tools, probably in the weaving industry," she said softly, holding up a skull.

She said they were "normal size" with no evidence of any Goliath-sized giants.

Master said that, despite similar-sounding names, there is no connection between the Philistines and today's Palestinians.

"The words are similar, but not the people," he said.

"We know here in Ashkelon that these Philistines were completely destroyed by (Babylonian king) Nebuchadnezzar in December of 604 BC," he said.

"Everything that came after was very different and a very different group of people."

The 30 years of excavations at the Ashkelon cemetery come to an end this summer, when the dig will be reburied.

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WV gal

Such amazing information. I love reading about archaeology and all the finds in the digs. History is certainly better than current issues.[CN]

真是了不起的信息。我热爱阅读有关考古和所有出土物的文章。历史显然比时事更耐人寻味。

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C. AustenReply toWV gal

True....The truth of science is always better than the fiction of the bible.[CN]

真的..科学真相总比圣经中的传说要好。

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CommenterReply toWV gal

C. Austen, even though the dig confirmed the truth of the Bible![CN]

C. Austen,即使考古证实了圣经的真实性。

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symsigReply toWV gal

I don't think one can say it "confirmed the truth of the Bible".[CN]

我不认为就可以说“证实了圣经的真实性”。

It confirms that such a people existed in that area but the wildest of myths often has some basis in fact, even if the majority of the myth is false.[CN]

只能证明那个地区曾经存在这么一种人,但是最最怪诞离奇的神话也常存在着一些基本的事实,即使神话的大部分内容都是虚构的。

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ROBERT

Amazing.[CN]

太棒了。

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DavidC

Daniel, if we do not learn how to eliminate the destructive violence of today there will not be a future![CN]

Daniel,如果我们不学习如何消除当今社会的破坏性暴力将没有未来!

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JDReply toDavidC

Daniel who?[CN]

哪个Daniel?

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John

It's amazing how much of our own history we don't know about.[CN]

真神了,我们连自己的历史都还有那么多不知道的。

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ShantyReply toJohn

You are right, my ancestory is Celtic and until DNA analysis came along and showed that the Celts were closely associated with the Berbers and Basqs nobody suspected it.[CN]

你说对了,我的祖先是凯尔特人,直到DNA分析追本溯源显示凯尔特人曾与柏柏尔人和巴斯克人紧密相关。没人怀疑。

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SamReply toJohn

Oddly, a lot of Irish heritage traces back to Turkey of all places.[CN]

奇怪了,好多爱尔兰后代可以追溯到土耳其的各个地方。

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JohnReply toJohn

Most of us so called Anglo Saxons here in America are a hodgepodge of Germanic and Celtic mix. And Franks who are of the same mix. We do know a lot about our history.[CN]

在美国我们大部分所谓盎格鲁-撒克逊人都是日耳曼人和凯尔特人的混血。还有法兰克人也是这样。关于自己的历史我们知道的还是很多的

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MichaelReply toJohn

Shanty and now we are pretty sure that Irish were not Celts[CN]

Shanty,现在我们可以确定爱尔兰人不是凯尔特人了

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symsigReply toJohn

Geneticly?[CN]

从基因上来说?

Perhaps not... but present research suggests that the Celtic people were a cultural grouping, rather then an ethnic one.[CN]

可能不是...但是现如今的研究表明凯尔特人是某种文化群体的统称,而不是某个种族的统称

If, (Note...if)...this is so then DNA will not give us any substantive proof.[CN]

如果,(注意我是说如果)这是真的,那么基因也不能够给我们提供任何确实证据。

Research suggests that cultural, rather then ethnic groups were much more significant in social development.[CN]

研究表明文化比人种对社会发展重要得多。

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eugene

Obviously, some people just should not read or comment on articles like this. Jeez![CN]

显然,有些人根本就不该读到或者评论这样的文章。我的天!

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Alan

When my children were growing up, they thought Philistines were bad drivers.[CN]

我小孩成长的时候,他们以为腓力斯人是指糟糕的司机。

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EldonReply toAlan

And people who order White Wine with beef.[CN]

还有点白葡萄酒配牛排的人。

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Chuckbeary

Did the Philistines invent rolling ads that obscured the comments on Yahoo? Or was that Yahoo's own invention to alienate readers?[CN]

是腓力斯人发明了雅虎上能屏蔽评论的滚动广告?还是这是雅虎自己的创造,为了疏远读者?

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SReply toChuckbeary

Go to the "Add-ons" or "Extensions" tool in your browser and install Adblock Plus.[CN]

点击你浏览器的“插件”或“扩展”工具,安装Adblock Plus。

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EvenStevenReply toChuckbeary

Also use Opera as your browser.[CN]

或者使用Opera浏览器。

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AmandaReply toChuckbeary

Thank you for telling us about Adblock Plus! Just installed it... yay.[CN]

谢谢告知Adblock Plus!刚安装了...耶。

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williamReply toChuckbeary

could be a product of windows 10 I hate it!!!!![CN]

可能是windows 10的性能 我烦这个!!!

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Joe CReply toChuckbeary

William, I saw the same thing on Chrome on my Mac (before I added Adblock).[CN]

William,我Mac电脑Chrome浏览器也这样(没装Adblock之前)。

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AlanReply toChuckbeary

This works, without adding software that may be a scam or being unable to load software on a work machine - simply don't open the page in full page mode. Open it in partial page mode and the adds disappear.[CN]

这个有用,没有安装软件时那个可能就是个钓鱼链接或者让你不能在运行的机子上安装软件 - 只要不把页面最大化,用向下还原打开页面就没有广告了。

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JDReply toChuckbeary

I didn't install anything. I just keep my browser up to date. It really isn't that hard.[CN]

我啥也没装。只确保浏览器是最新版本。真没那么难办。

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DavidReply toChuckbeary

Yeah, Adblock works. You can curse the darkness or light the app.[CN]

对哒,Adblock有用。你要不就诅咒黑暗的雅虎要不就点亮这个应用。

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Uncle D

when the Jews came down out of the hills of Canaan and took over the surrounding towns,they were the terrorists of their day-going into towns and killing everybody,or in some instances the men and boys-all at the express wish of God;(their priests assured them). They were the Palestinian terrorists, and possibly the Isis of their day.[CN]

犹他人从迦南山中走出来,占领周围的村镇的时候,他们是那时的恐怖分子 - 入侵镇子,杀害镇民,或者在某些情况下只杀害男人和男孩 - 都以上帝之名;(祭司这么让他们安心)。他们是巴勒斯坦人的恐怖分子,还可能是他们时代的Isis。

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Snowball_InHawaii

"We also see from their bones that they were hard workers, they practised inbreeding and they used their teeth as tools, probably in the weaving industry." Not unlike most modern-day Americans will do after the next election.[CN]

“从他们的骨头可以看出他们是辛勤的劳动者,他们实行近亲交配,把牙齿当工具,可能是在编织的时候。”下次选举后大多数美国人也或许会这么干。

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DaveintheDotteReply toSnowball_InHawaii

Wailing and gnashing of teeth.[CN]

一边恸哭一边咬牙切齿。

Sounds about right.[CN]

说得好像挺对的。

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Eric

Goliath's size was an anomaly among the Philistines. It is written that he also had 6 fingers on each hand. Why would anyone think they would find any giant skeletons among the graves of the Philistines?[CN]

哥利亚的身躯对腓力斯人来说异常的巨大。书上说哥利亚人每只手有6根手指。怎么会有人觉得在腓力斯人墓穴中可以找到巨人骨骼呢?

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JaredDReply toEric

He also didn't exist.[CN]

他也不存在。

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DJKReply toEric

Was it Comedy Central or Family Guy that taught you absolutely everything in the bible is a story?[CN]

是喜剧中心(美国有线频道)还是居家男人(电影名)告诉你圣经中的任何事都是一个故事?

Pathetic. Go back to your TV for more insight, genius.[CN]

可悲。回去看电视再长点知识吧,天才。

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GBENROReply toEric

The bible says that they were born to the giant, in other words Goliath and some of his siblings were giants. There was at least one other who almost killed King David during a battle. Read about Ishbi-benob and 2 other giants in 2nd Samuel 21 :16-22.[CN]

圣经中说他们是巨人生的,换句话说哥利斯和他的一些兄弟姐妹是巨人。至少有一个人在战斗中差点杀了大卫王。读读以实比诺的故事和其他两个巨人在《撒母耳记》第二卷21章:16-22节的记载

The chapter concludes by saying that all 4 were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hands of David and his servants.[CN]

这章结尾说这4位都是迦特的巨人生的,落入了大卫及其仆人之手。

Meaning Goliath was killed by David and then his 3 brothers (making 4) were killed by David's men.[CN]

意思就是哥利亚被大卫杀了,随后他的三个兄弟(共4个巨人)被大卫的手下杀死。

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EvenStevenReply toEric

It's still just a story spun around the bronze age campfires that somehow wound up in the Bible.[CN]

还只是青铜器时代篝火旁流传的故事,不知怎的就记录在了圣经中。

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CommenterReply toEric

What is a "bronze-age campfire"?[CN]

“青铜器时代篝火”是什么?

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texasholdemsdarlinReply toEric

EvenSteven How do you think history was kept and passed on back then? You say stories, but yet you believe that the people existed , but no history of them? If it was written any any other book you would jump on it as truth.[CN]

EvenSteven不然你以为那个时候历史是怎么记录并传承下来的?你说这是编的,但你又相信有这些人的存在,那会没有关于他们的史实吗?要是写在别的书上你就会说是真的吧。

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Socion

That settles it, I am definitely going to be cremated.[CN]

谜底解开了,我以后一定要火葬。

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BryanReply toSocion

Aw, but then future generations won't be able to create a backstory for your skeleton![CN]

噢,不过这样后人就没法为你骨骸编故事了!

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I Did Not Do It!Reply toSocion

OH yes they will....I already planned for because I bought the double Urn from a place I found in Maine with everything I like written and pictures on it too. They sell on eBay these days![CN]

啊不对他们可以的...我已经计划好了,因为我在缅因州的某个地方买了个双人骨灰瓮,上面写了所有我喜欢的东西还有照片。现在eBay上有卖啦!

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I Did Not Do It!Reply toSocion

I know lots of other companies are on eBay too... THAT saying," A picture is worth a thousand words" inspired me to plan ahead.

Well I have us young and now photos plus writing, so that gets anyone who finds it years from now to see and know who was on this land before!

YES, I CHECKED THE INTERNET...Here you can be buried on your land in this state I checked before I ordered!

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They'Re Coming

It would be interesting to see who the Philistines are most closely related to today. Like the article indicates, they're probably from Greece, but the DNA may surprise us.

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Doctor HakeemReply toThey'Re Coming

their DNA will closely match trump's.

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lostwaldoReply toThey'Re Coming

Did they find any signs that read Philistine lives matter?

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Joe BReply toThey'Re Coming

No, but they found a pali, right beside them, waving happily and roaring that it is ALLAH that put him there... and he is really on his way to see the 72 virgins...but took the wrong turn in the tunnels they were visiting, on the way to Israel...Abbas told him so and Yasser was there before too....

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Pure Logic U Nutc8seReply toThey'Re Coming

At least if it's true - the Palestinians fight for what they have. Hardworking people .

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lostwaldoReply toThey'Re Coming

The Palestinians may fight, but I question the intelligence of somebody with just a rock that picks a fight with somebody with an M-16.

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WeNeedRealMusicReply toThey'Re Coming

Well, they did not plague the world with selfies.

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Ranso

The Masoretic is the authoritative Hebrew and Aramaic text for Rabbinic Judaism and it describes Goliath's height as "six cubits and a span" (9 feet 9 inches or 2.97 metres). In modern times there have been 17 individuals who were known to have grown to be over 8 feet tall. Robert Wadlow (February 22, 1918 - July 15, 1940 ) reached a height of 8ft. 11inches and John W. Rogan (February 16, 1865 - September 12, 1905) grew to a height of 8 ft. 9 inches. John F. Carroll who was born around 1932 and died in 1969 was 8 ft. 7.75 inches, but suffered a spinal condition that shorten his height considerably. It has been estimated that if his curvature of the spine could have been corrected, that he would have exceeded 9 feet in height.

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GuestReply toRanso

Exactly, they're just trying to disprove the Old Testament.

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howarddReply toRanso

Just as in our society what we call giants are rare so it could have been with Goliath. They did find a piece of pottery wth that name,but this does not mean it refers to the Goliath.

We know in people the anterior lobe of the pituitary excretes growth hormone hGH until about age 28 when long bone growth ceases. But in rare cases this hGH activity doesn't cease but can cause gigantism with some humans growing to 8/9 ft. tall.

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Ebil White DebbelReply toRanso

Weren't the Philistines supposed to be a race of giants?

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catharinaReply toRanso

Usually people with gigantism have physical problems & pain. It would be surprising if they were able to fight in a battle.

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JTKirkReply toRanso

@Ebil. No. They often fought the Israelites and Samson mrried one so they were not. Goliath was like an exception as the Israelites were shocked to see the size of him.

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jimtex222Reply toRanso

So it seems that they were not a giant race but they had very tall people among them. The bible is correct and science is correct.

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ErickReply toRanso

Alternatively, oral histories are prone to exaggerations. Much like when the fish your dad caught grew 5 inches over time. Now multiply that by a few millennium.

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JohnReply toRanso

The Philistines had at least one very tall soldier. That's all.

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ShantyReply toRanso

They were the niphilim of the OT, legends. Although there have been many claims of the bones of giants being excavated the bones almost all seem to mysteriously get lost, stolen, or confiscated by the Smithsonian.

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texasholdemsdarlinReply toRanso

catharina he might have been young at the time and not yet suffering any major deformity or disability yet, he was supposed to hane had extra fingers.

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David

Maybe in my next life will be an archaeologists. This stuff is amazing. Great find.

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RimshotReply toDavid

But then you might dig up your own bones.

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DavidReply toDavid

Lol. I just might

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markReply toDavid

In your next life, you'll be archeology

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Commenter

Anthropologists say that humans have grown taller, and larger in girth, throughout history.

So the small size of those bones might not mean they weren't tall for the time.

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DavidTReply toCommenter

It also doesn't mean an outlier could have been taller.

Still, the odds are high that the Israelite's were a Canaanite tribe in the Jerusalem Hills, occasionally fighting different invaders. When the Babylonians wiped out just about everybody on the coast, the Israelite's expanded. Of course "We won victory in battle" sounded better at the time than "We were goat herders and moved into empty areas."

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Eric MReply toCommenter

Actually it depends on the climate and food sources more than anything, if there was meat, cheese, milk and plenty of protein available in the diets the peoples tended to larger, if diets were more along the grain and vegetable sides they were smaller and slimmer, then there the lack of food which was always a worry back then due to famine, war, ect, those generations tended be much shorter and slimmer due to growing up without proper nutrition.

Your average Roman was not very tall 5'2 to 5'4, while you average Kelt or German were 5'9 and heavier in build simple due to their high protein diets which was good for short burst of activity but wore out quickly, but the diets of fish and vegetables, grain left gave the Romans a body type that was made for activity over a long period of time.

Your average Viking was between 5'6 to 5'8 in Norway and Denmark, the Swedes were 5'10 simply because they have better lands to raise cattle and crops on and had access to better protein sources than there neighbors.

Of course there was always a few people who grew bigger than the others we still see that today.

When you work out with weights the lifting and technique, are only part of the process, diet is the main key.

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billyReply toCommenter

Then I guess Gen. G. A. Custer was a vegan. His uniform would fit a 5th grader. We have been growing for many reasons-protein,vitamins, LACK OF BAD THINGS and the need to put up with sliding ads. As for Romans/Germans-why are northern deer and moose so much bigger than warm weather animal of the same species? Hell, if I knew what I was talking about, I'd be rich and doing something better than this.

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GregReply toCommenter

People have gotten bigger and stronger even in my own lifetime.

When I was a kid it took 3 or 4 powerful men to carry $100 worth of groceries. Today a little old lady can do it with ease.

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GregReply toCommenter

At 5'8" Napoleon Bonaparte was above average in height for that era, like a 6 footer today. But thanks to a mistranslation in French units of measure, his enemies pounced on the idea that he was a dwarf. Tolstoy in "War and Peace" has Napoleon appear in the story and describes him basically as a midget. Even today we speak of a pushy short man as having a "Napoleon Complex".

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billyReply toCommenter

Greg said it all!

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LeeReply toCommenter

David T, when the Babylonians wiped out the Philistines, they were also destroying Jerusalem and the temple and deporting the upper classes of Judah (Israel had already been defeated decades earlier) back to Babylon. Only the poorest survived and were left behind, according to the Bible. The prophet Daniel was among those who were taken into captivity. The prophet Jeremiah was among those who were left behind.

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xuReply toCommenter

Actually, this isn't true entirely. The agricultural revolution had a drastic effect on height. Prior to the agricultural revolution, and remaining in hunter gatherer societies, people were much taller. In fact, we didn't reach the average size of the average hunter gatherer until the second half of the twentieth century.

The problem is that cereal grains are actually not a particularly good food for humans.

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DavidTReply toCommenter

Different invasion, Lee. There have been a few. Israel is on the main route between Africa and Asia and lots of people have conquered it.

The Babylonian exile was what you said it was. However, my understanding is that the Philistines were wiped out by earlier invaders from the same area.

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xuReply toCommenter

Goliath's height was specifically stated at 4 cubits and a span. That translates to 6'-9" or a little over two meters. So, if true, he would be very tall at any period in humanity's existence.

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GregReply toCommenter

There are always men and women who by a combination of good genes, healthy habits and plain old luck, defy the limitations of the age. The Viking warlord Harald Hardrada was 7 feet tall. The Greek orator Isocrates was writing great speeches in his 90s.

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DavidReply toCommenter

I visited the Medici palace in Florence, there was a display of actual clothes worn by the people hundreds of years ago and I was shocked at how small they must have been to fit into them.

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D.dotReply toCommenter

France's King François I was about 6ft5 I believe - his armor is heads taller than anyone else's in the display cases (if I may say, ahem). Some princess from the Siberian steppes 5000 years ago was 5ft8. The potential for even most 'average' people of being fairly tall is always there, but there are so many things that can and do happen to prevent realizing that potential.

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howarddReply toCommenter

The biblical narrative says there -in this case -was only one giant and that was Goliath. It never refers to the Philistines as being a race of Giants!

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Eric MReply toCommenter

D,dot, and that's why King François was king.

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HenryReply toCommenter

Or it is possible that the physical size of the Philistine people was blown out of proportion in order to exaggerate the accomplishment of the young King David.

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brianReply toCommenter

Henry I think that's a nice way of saying they lied and yes they did

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HenryReply toCommenter

Not necessarily a lie. History embellishment is a common practice across cultures, especially when it involves prominent individuals. It is used to enhance or degrade one's image. Whatever the true account is, it accurately captures the society's perception of the person. In modern terms, it would be called a bias. The only difference is that they tend to do it more liberally in the past.

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Lazaro

Impossible. Hasbara has informed us time and again that Palestinians (Philistines) never exited, they're just Jordanian rejects.

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Susan

Why will the dig be reburied??? It should be converted into a museum!

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Joe Kwok Sing Wong

I am Joe Kwok Sing Wong, the author of " A Discovery Of The Ancient Common Language And A New method Of Teaching English." The word of Goliath is in the Chinese language it means ' Tall People Are." The word Li is like in the word Israeli. Li means people. I think Philistine, Phil means Phoenix, colorful, tine means relative just like in the word Latin. Latin means late relative. Chinese people considered White people are very tall and have long arms. So, Philistine are White people. I have moved back from Socorro New Mexico to Flagstaff Arizona in January 2014. Flagstaff Arizona is my home town since 1961. I am now 76 years old..

From: Joe Kwok Sing Wong ( Arizona Joe Wong.)

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Mladen

There are number of medical conditions which can cause gigantic growth in some individual and large guy would be often fighting champion of the tribe. However, big guy with some armor, shield and sword, would have difficulty hunting down young shepherd with sling. David wasn't nicest guy buy he was talented in military tactic, and knew how to use his advantage.

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JohnReply toMladen

David was a 17 year old shepherd boy when he went up against Goliath. Too young for war. He offed the armor and sword given to him by King Saul, stating "I am not proven with this...".

He used his sling and some smooth stones taken from a brook, with which he was experienced. Bopped Goliath in the head with a stone. When Goliath fell, David took Goliath's sword and cut off his head.

The actual events are written in 1 Samuel 17. A good read.

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romikk

Goliath of the philistines, was actually embued with the leftover giant dna of the anakim, the angels who left their place and mated with daughters of men..Hence why he was so incredibly large. we still see some of that very same dna on the occasion today...however it has deteriorated so much, those poor folk don't live very long.

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