The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle

Hey a 16 year old Indian Bengali boy from kolkata has recently solved 350 years old puzzle given by Sir Issac Newton.That 16 year old boy Sourya Roy had solved this problem in Germany regarding the trajectory of a particle being thrown parallel to earth and he had calculated the resultant of the required force needed to put the particle on same point.Indian may have less iq-but Bengali ,specially Hindu bengali who are only 60 million in population has already produced best physicist from Asia-Satyendra Bose,Asia’s only economist Nobel laureate Amartya Sen,best literary figure from Asia-Rabindranath Tagore.

And East Asian certainly have high iq but all achievements have come from Japan only,and West Bengal had produced 5 Nobel laureate and Bangladesh 1.And there were 3 Nobel which Bengal had missed whose work had won Nobel after their death.The greatest architect of 20th century is also from Bangladesh.

@High iq EA

        From your post it looks like you certainly have very poor iq-I think this 16 year old boy has achieved more than winning so many math olympiad contest that China had already achieved.Why China can not produce a Satyendra Bose or a science polymath like Jc Bose with 1.4 billion population?Mount everest height was also calculated by a Bengali mathematician Radhanath Sikdar.Why China can not produce anyone like these men.The answer is lack of ideology.The reason Jewish and whites perform so well in inventions and discovery because of their system and great ideology.Nikola Tesla was such a genius who could think atleast 100 years ahed of his time,that’s why nobody during his lifetime could not recognise his genius during his life time.He could memorize thing for months because of his superlative memory and ideolgy of thinking prowess.

So it’s not only high iq but deep independent thinking power of someone can reach him to the pinnacle of success.Japanese have got that thinking power,that’s why they have produced way more pioneers in every field than China.

I think an idiot Indian (Astro, Sambit, Indians are smarter, AryanInside) write the same stupid things under different nick names. I really can’t stand reading the whole message filled with incredible grammar mistakes in almost every sentence and idiot arguments. he tries to respond me that Nigeria is more crowded. )) I wouldn’t be able to simplify any more. Astro or whatever the hell you are, Ricardo’s comparative advantage theory has nothing to do with the population density but it is related with population, they are different. Do not try to understand because you are absolutely an idiot!

I heard no one from India except the mathematician Ramanujan and there were dozens of better mathematicians from the West in the history. He is not that important. Instead of giving the names of lots of unknown Indian scientists you should compare the average income of India (3700 $) with the other countries if you can. That is the summary of how successful the Indians are. Do a favor for everyone and just get lost with your disgusting and idiot comments from this forum forever.

Sorry MR. Strategy,arguably the most hopeless idiot in the entire thread, I am not the semi literate buffoon like Indians are smart or Astro or any other idiot who had posted in this blog.I just mentioned the achievement of a 16 year old boy from India who solved a critical puzzle of Newtonian mechanics recently in Germany.

Quite frankly speaking apart from Ramanujan India had not produced any world renowned mathematician.And apart from Satyendra Bose India also had not produced any world class Physicist.As one of the father of quantum mechanics he stands out the only big name form entire Asia along with European big names of the then era.

I was just replying to the disgusting nerdy geek came with the handle “high iq Ea,low iq Sa”-So rather than fighting with me you should make peace with him.And the whole world knows how much all you East Asian can speak English.Don’t worry I am form a region in India which has huge amount of Chinese and most of them are leading their lives by selling shoes and doing restaurant business.In fact from that 17th century British era they have not progressed even a single inch.

And since you have claimed yourself an Economist,I hope you have heard the names of sir Partha Dasgupta(the first Economist in the world who have become a fellow of Royal society which was exclusively for scientist) and Asia’s only Nobel laureate Economist Amartya Sen.Can you name any East Asian Economist who have achieved anything near to these men.Although they were born in current day Bangladesh but now they are part of Indian State of west Bengal.And what about Dr. Muhammad Yunus who is often being called the “banker’s of world’s poor”!!!Sorry to contradict your view but no East Asian had done anything near to these men.

And Indians are smart named one Indian Scientist Sir JC Bose-One of the greatest polymath in science and the first man from Asia who started modern science in asia.If you don’t know his achievements then beyond the shadow of any doubt It’s quite evident that you are a fucked up retarded moron who should be kept inside the small room of little knowledge which you call home.

And don’t come to fight with me-You can rest assure I have more knowledge of science than all you East Asian added together who have posted in this blog.But as good guy who has no intention to fight with anybody here must bring one great Chinese polymath who had not been discussed by anybody in the entire thread-Great polymath of 11th centurt Shen Kuo-certainly one of the greatest of all time.

Recently in 2008 the only Asian scientist whose bust was created in Britain was Sir Jc Bose(which is being kept at Christ college,Cambridge university beside Darwin and English poet Milton).why British only felicitated him?why not any East Asian or any other from India or rest of Asia-Because they are aware of his contributions in science which you nerdy geek can not digest.

Who do you think you are deluding? You come with the same idiot boring claims with different nick names. You should ask the Western people what they know about Ramanujan. I bet most of them either know nothing about him or never heard of him. You couldn’t answer my question about the average Indian income (3700 $) because you can’t. I the Chinese sell shoes what do the Indians do to earn 3700 $? The Indians should build first toilets instead of doing scientific research. Here is your country’s success.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aErNiP_V4RLc&refer=exclusive

As to scientists do you know any of the names who were cited most between 1997-2007 in physics? There were NO WHITES and NO INDIANS at the top 6 because they were all East Asians! Get surprised??? I can easily pick any name from that list and claim that he was a better scientist than your so-called scientists and you can’t prove anything!

http://library.poly.edu/news/2008/01/17/the-100-most-cited-scientists
http://in-cites.com/nobel/2007-phy-top100.html

Strategy ,it seems like you are not only an idiot but also a lier.Average per capita income for Indian is about 1100 USD,not 3700 according 2011 census and statistics that happened in India excluding non residencial Indian (NRI).

With this per capita income it’s impossible to do any innovative work in India.India spends only 1/250 amount of money on education compared to Usa.So how can you compare India with America or wester countries.But still Indian state of West Bengal has produced some great minds in every field compared to some top European countries with only 60-70 million population but with economy 1/100 times than most of those European countries.

Satyendra Bose and Jc Bose are rare genius.Satyendra Bose’s one single paper created sensation as he created a new field of quantum statistics and 50 percent particle of this Universe(Boson) is being named after him.If he would have done his work in Europe then he would have become as genius as Bohr or Dirac or Schrodinger.Infact Einstein was not fair with him regarding his second paper which according to many physicist of that era was equally pioneering.

And Jc Bose-Lord Kelvin and Rayleigh said that no western scientist would not even have worked with such primitive instruments with absolutely no facilities under which Bose worked and did perform one of the greatest invention of all time.
He also invented microwave and was the first man in the world who experimentally showed that plant has also life.Now if anybody from east or west or any other part of the world have not heard these names then certainly they do not have any knowledge of science.for example you don’t even know that before watson And Crick DNa was discovered(almost most of the work was done)by Rosalind franklin but she died in cancer at the age of 37.later Watson and Crick got recognisation by using her previous work.

And one more thing that I am not any of the guy who has posted previously so today I will take another great physicist from Japan-Hideki Yukawa,After Satyendra Bose and Abdus Salam of Pakistan he is the 3rd best physicist from Asia in modern era.

And please don’t disturb me with anymore stupid,retarded reply as I have no intention to fight with anybody like Indian are smart or Aryan side or anybody else.

You are so idiot that you can’t do even a search on the internet. I didn’t read your entire garbage as I would pay no attention to one who doesn’t know his country’s average income and can’t use internet. India’s average income is 3694 $ according to IMF, 3425 $ to World Bank and 3700 $ to CIA. That includes all the taxes.
PPP (purchasing power parity) shows that the prices are adjusted meaning one Big Mac has the same price everywhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html
GDP - per capita (PPP): $3,700 (2011 est.)

You two guys are made for each other, a real match in stupidity - A retarded Indian Bengali babu vs a Universally stupid Chinese guy,,,,carry on we are watching the fun show.

Strategy,now you understand that idiot Astro(who does represent this 81 iq)and I are different person.And about all those stats just google per capita income of India and read the encyclopedia where you will find per capita income of every Indian states.The highest per capita income Indian state is Maharashtra with $1800 and lowest is Bihar with $423.

Now do you even know that the number one science journal in the world Nature’s top 1 percentile authors are either Jewish or whites.There are very few Asians in top 1 percentile most of whom becomes future Nobel prize winners.In Cambridge university they posted a survey(jointly with Royal society) where top cited east Asian authors are mostly Japanese.So where is Chinese presence my friend?There were only 4 south Asian (3 Indian,one Bangladeshi) who were cited in top 200.

Now you are certainly right that India does not have much chance to compete with India considering huge amount of population of the country are universal idiot like Astro with iq and eq level less than Australian Aboriginal.But I was just checking the Pulitzer winners from china and I did not find any single one-India have 4 including one of the youngest ever Jhumpa Lahiri.

And I will end this post by making one single statement-In last century Satyendra Bose alone had made more contributions than all Chinese added together and so far in 3 different years 9 persons have one Nobel related to His statics and bec.So I don’t have to talk about others.similarly Ramanujan showed nearly 3000 formulas related to series which has vast implementation in both Mathematics and physics.And no Chinese has so far has produced engineers like Fazlur khan (the greatest architect and structural engineer of last century) or Vinod Dham who created a chip using which almost 80 percent computers of current world run.

So all your stupid claims does not make any sense and rather than fighting against each other why people of both these country is not learning from other developed countries?

in the above post it would be rather-India does not have much chance to compete with China in future considering pathetic deluded nerd like Astro are living…

You stupid SAMBIT better get out from here with your big Zero IQ, Every quote of yours is either biased or incomplete. You are a disgrace to Indians. You do not even know the Indian Nobel price winners in science, If you know then why didn’t you mention it you moron. Anyway I am not wasting my time to point out the mistakes, just not worth it.

Expected reply from a guy who has come from a very dumb, primitive race with iq level somewhere around 75-80.Idiot,it’s Nobel prize,not Nobel price.

And read this wikipedia page of famous people from Kolkata where you will find the names of all Nobel Laureates of West Bengal.Apart from those 5,there are 3 Indian who won with Us nationality working in Usa/uk.Those 3 are not Indian.And why you are caring so much about Nobel Prize.Newton,Galileo,Maxwell,Faraday,Pasteur did not require any Nobel prize to become famous.In 20th century the greatest inventors like Tesla,Edison or physicist like Bose,Oppenheimer,Fred Hoyle,or current day’s Stephen Hawkins have not won Nobel.In chemistry Mendeleev did not win Nobel.In literature arguably the greatest poet of all time Leo Tolstoy did not win Nobel.Sn Bose was never nominated for Nobel prize and Jc Bose Did not even patent his work after Inventing radio,that’s why he missed out.Physician Subhas Mukhopadhya missed out Nobel as he died long ago before 2010 when Nobel was awarded in 2010 for ivf to British Edwards(his co researcher Stetope also died long ago).A man ‘s name will be written in annals of history by his work,not by any particular award.Do you think that Raman or Chandrasekhar a better physicist than Bose?

I know you goof ball does know anything about science,so for your help Iam recommending you to read this book

              Remarkable physicist from (top 50) Galileo to Yukawa published by Cambridge University press
                                      author-Ioan James of Oxford

It’s available in pdf format-read it and you will find only two Asian-S.N Bose and Yukawa(i.e, a Bengali and a Japanese).

They published top 50 Mathematician also where no Asian has featured in top 50.

And even you are so glad about that coveted award then why apart from kolkata(i.e capital of Bengal),no other Indian state has not produced a single Nobel prize winners working in their home?

And about My iq,you can rest assure it’s not only more than twice that you have got but certainly lot higher than every single primitive member of your race living around this planet.

The only Indian Nobel laureates in Science are C.V.Raman , Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar , Venkatraman Ramakrishnan and Khorana. You didnt even mentioned these names why ? because they are not Bengalis ?. You have became too small in thinking regionally. This is the curse India has due to dumb and narrow minded guys like you. If Indians go abroad their genes get mutated ? In terms of Innovations neither India nor China is a player and that is not the topic of discussion here. Go and read all the early posts from all those smart Indians and think big. India is not that shit hole bengla as you think. India was one of the greatest ancient civilizations and will be a super power in the future, China can do nothing about it, unless a bunch of jokers like you plays regionalism and screws it up. Go and read “Breaking India ” by Rajiv Malhotra and Aravindan Neelakantan, read it and come back to me, then only you know what I am saying. India is not a union of states, it is a strong nation by itself. That is the way every Indian has to think whether they live in Bengla or abroad. At least this Chinese guy has a sense of belonging for his country which you don’t even have, pathetic…................

I knew an irrational retarded nerd like you will not even understand the meaning of my post.First,I took two of those Physics laureates names in my previous post and also mentioned about all 3 who had done their work in abroad.But do you even know anything about their works and it’s impact on those certain fields?the clearcut answer is No.And 3 of those laureates are Brahmins about whom you have made derogatory remarks in your previous posts and now you are boasting for those same guys-What a shame on you!!And there is one more science laureate from India Sir Ronald ross who was born in India and also did his work in India.You don’t even know how to count laureates of a country…And there are 3 Indian who should have won but missed out are salman Rushdie in Literature,In physics ECG Sudarshan and father of modern Astrophysics MN Saha.

Now at this point I realise that you certainly do not understand anything about Science or Technology-So I am diverting to different fields-Can you name the greatest Economist of last century…Oh wait he was not a laureate.

And since Olympic is approaching in London,so let’s talk about some sports.

Muhammad Ali,arguably the greatest sports person of the last century only won a single gold medal in 1960.Sergey Bubka who created 35 world records in pole vault only won one single gold medal in Olympic.Roger Federer has not won one gold medal yet in singles competition at Olympic.

So what the hell a particular award means to showcase someone’s genius?

Richard Feynman called it a burden while Linus Pauling after winning his first Nobel in Chemistry made jokes about it.According to your theory John Bardeen will be the greatest Physict of all time since he won it twice.

Although you come with the handle of Astro ,(but you certainly don’t know anything about astronomy)so let me talk about some astronomy.We all have heard the names of Galileo,Copernicus,Kepler and Newton.But how many of us have heard about Tycho Brahe without whom there would not have been any Kepler?

I certainly don’t want to waste any more time talking with a cabbage headed retarded soul like you,but you certainly an iconic figure of dumb group of people as already mentioned by the blogger.Wake up dude,the Chinese has already created sensation in field of Sports and if they invest properly and create a proper system,then they will harvest gold in field of education also.But with people like you it’s certainly impossible for India to match with China in near future.Your comment about Strategy-‘universal idiot Chinese’ tells that you have not gained proper education from your childhood.

People remember Mohamed Ali because he won heavy weight championships multiple times. When it comes to games and boxing Championships are the criteria not Olympics medals, for sports yes. Who is great?  a” world heavy weight champion” or an Olympics medal winner in Boxing. You always thinks in the other way around that is your problem. IQ problem ?

-Richard Feynman called it a burden while Linus Pauling after winning his first Nobel in Chemistry made jokes about it

So what?  it is only a joke !!!!!!!!

-Why Tycho Brahe is not known ? His cosmology was geocentric, in opposition to Copernicus and that was the biggest blunder, everybody knows it except you.

Decimal system is an Indian invention, w/o it there cant be any higher maths or science but how many acknowledges it ? why ? because there are nothing like patenting in those times , that is why always awards and honours matters.

Did you have a degree ? if so why did you took it ? that paper matters right ? Can a doctor practise w/o licencing ? These are not for show cases , these are a must.

Yes I too do not have time to talk to a dumb ass who cant even acknowledge Nobel laureates, Sir Ronald Ross is not an Indian origin ( Ancestry).

Let us stop this nonsense, Chinese fellows may be enjoying our conversation, You are the one started discrediting the Indian handlers here and did a tooth picking by yourself. That is why I have to respond for them, they might not have noticed it , if so you will get another load from them. So think as an Indian first…then you can think as a Bengali , we dont care !!!!!!!!!!!

Sambit like I explained before you still ask the same question about GDP per capita. PPP (purchasing power parity) is calculated as if the prices of the goods and services in different countries are equal (as much as they can be). Normally because of the cheap labor especially the services are much cheaper in poor countries. So the poor countries have higher PPP than nominal and the wealthy countries have lower. By the adjustment of PPP the poor countries and wealthy countries come closer to each other; it is a much better measure. You don’t need to trust Wikipedia but note that the other source is the official site of CIA. India’s average income is 3700 $.

As to IQ tests the reliability of these tests is surely questioned. Note that the enrichment programs in the US are the most reliable ones, not only in the US but worldwide. They are not double-blind because both sides are checking the reliability of the tests as they have responsibility to the government and these programs require huge amounts from the government budget. But even during the period of Bush (Republicans) still the programs (No Child Left Behind) continued. Curious Indian said that if there is only one (as a counterexample) program improved the IQ then it will be enough (!) to prove that IQ can change. No, sorry it is not simple as that. No one is stupid. Only Head Start included 7 million students and there are numerous other studies which all failed without any exception. The scores all faded out in the adulthood as the brain ends its development. So if there was any study which is said to have improved IQ by accident (found not because they are any better in science than the US but they were just luckier) then this method should have been copied to America and generalized. I am pretty sure that the liberals would never miss it because they always come with new, very creative, ridiculous and stupid excuses for their failures.  So I don’t need to check every study in Venezuela, Zaire or maybe India etc. So if there is a specific method of improving IQ then just bring it to America and do it honestly while being watched by numerous supervisors. No, sorry there is absolutely no study like this in America! So if there is any study in the other countries I will certainly question an error of measurement. There can be several reasons. The study may be double blind (not checked by the right-hand side), include only children (prone to fade in the end at the adulthood) or not a permanent gain (scores gained temporarily just by having learned some tricks of tests or the types of questions but being unable to perform in a different type of test, shortly scores gained unrelated to g). The importance of IQ may be questioned as China is said to have an average of 105 according to Lynn but still is very poor.  But I will still claim that it is very highly genetic unless I am convinced that a specific method has been proved in the enrichment programs in America.

ı was going to paste the link of the author below about the subject, I just forgot.
http://tongue-tied2.blogspot.com/2009/12/is-brain-like-muscle-really-i-thought-i.html
I thought I would reproduce the Newsweak column below as proof that Leftists never learn anything. Results such as they describe have been known for years. What nobody has been able to show is that the beneficial effects of special training are lasting. Educationally “enriched” kids are just as dumb when they get to adulthood as are control groups—mainly because environmental handicaps tend to fade in importance as we get older. I noted recently some very powerful genetic research which showed exactly that: Environmental influences do matter somewhat in childhood but that fades out so that in adulthood it is your genetics that dictate your abilities.

Probably what the findings below show is that if you train kids in doing the sort of tasks that you encounter in IQ tests, they will get better at doing IQ tests for as long as they remember the training.

There is a slightly expanded account of the research concerned here but I can find no trace of it being published in a peer-reviewed academic journal. That leaves a lot of questions unanswered. It is, for instance, normal for there to be a “learning effect” in IQ testing. If you give the same test to the same people two weeks apart, they will do significantly better the second time around. That alone could explain the results below. The proper academic way to circumvent that problem is to use a “parallel form” of the test on the second time around. Most tests do have such forms available. Did the researchers below do that? Who knows? Other Problems: Was the study double-blind? Again, who knows? So I think that the bright-eyed enthusiasm shown below is mainly a product of uncritical and uninformed thinking.

Now I got to back up Sambit here, although I don’t agree with him/her completely - for example, I think Tesla was just a big braggart who never proved his crazy claims and got a patent for a lot of already invented things. For example, the basic principles of A.C current was already outlined by Faraday and there is some evidence that there was use of AC current in Europe even before Tesla patented it.

But Sambit certainly has point as Bengalis are probably the most successful group in India. In fact, Bengalis might as well be the smartest bunch in the whole planet.

Let’s take physics:
The greatest physicist this country has produced is S.N Bose by miles.
Bose-Einstein Condensate is easily one of the most important works in ALL of physics. Some have even said that it is possibly THE most important work, as important as relativity. And unlike the name might suggest, the work was practically Bose’s alone, Einstein had very little involvement apart from translating and publishing in a reputed journal.

And don’t even bring Raman and Chandrasekhar here. Arthur Eddington got Nobel for relativity, Einstein didn’t(he did for photo-electric effect). So by that logic, Eddington’s work should be considered greater than Einstein? Don’t even bring something so stupid.

Bose’s work has indirectly spun about a dozen nobel prizes, the latest being just a couple of years back. And I remember these physicists saying what an irony it was that Bose himself was never given the award.
And those who are saying that they never heard of Bose, who are you kidding? The most important particle in physics - also known as the god particles - are named after S.N.Bose.
If you have never heard about S.N.Bose, then it speaks volumes about your own idiocy, not anything about S.N.Bose.

Not to mention other great physicists like M.N.Saha. Then there are also things like the Roychoudury equation in physics. There was a lot of Buzz about a bet between S.Hawking and Kip thorne. The one who solved that puzzle is, however, a team of Indian physicists led by a Bengali string theorist.

Let’s take inventions:
There can’t be any doubt that the greatest inventor from this country was J.C.Bose and he was a Bengali. In fact, he is easily one of the greatest inventors ever.
The current method of test-tube babies is also thanks to a Bengali.
One of the top sound-system companies BOSE is made by a Bengali.
In fact, there are almost always some Bengalis making the news about science. For example, recently there was a news about a chip made by Bengali named Raja Basu.
The ISI kolkata(mostly bengalis) has contributed a lot to AI research.
I can go on for ever.

Let’s take music:
Who is the most popular musician in India? The answer to that is R.D.Burman - even 20 years after his death. Just ask any RJ of any Hindi FM channel. The one whose songs are always on demand is none other than a Bengali named R.D.Burman and even today’s musicians are not as much in demand as he is, unless it’s a newly released song.  He is also the one person whose songs get remixed the most. And practically all of modern Indian musicians will say that their biggest inspiration was R.D.Burman. R.D.Burman’s music is one of those things that feels better with time. The more you hear it, the better it gets.

Some Indian musicians have gone on record to say that not only is RDBurman the best musician the world has ever seen, but also that there will never be another one like him. Then there have been other musical experts who have said that “Puccini was probably the best musician in the first half of 20th century, and R.D.Burman was probably the best musician of the 2nd half of 20th century”.

But RDB is by no means the only great Bengali musician. For example, his father SDBurman holds a legendary status himself. Sachin Tendulkar was named after him.
Lata mangeskar, India’s most successful singer who has sung in many different languages rates Salil Chowdhury as probably the best. Hemata Mukherji was another true great. Even the legendary singer Kishore Kumar has produced some musical gems as a composer.
Not to mention that there were other great Bengali musicians who made music in Bengali only.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that since very early times in Indian film industry the Bengalis have made up nearly half of the top musicians. From Anil Biswas of early days to the golden era of Salil Chowdhury, Hemanta Mukherji(Hemant kumar), SD Burman , RD Burman to the likes of Bappi Lahiri to todays Pritam, Shantanu Moitra, Jeet Ganguly - half the top of the chart musicians have always been Bengalis. This is remarkable considering that the only two official bengali states are West Bengal and Tripura.

Of course, when the national anthems of India , Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are by a Bengali - you don’t have to say much more about their musical ability. Rabindra Sangeet is an entire genre of music in itself. The national song of India Vande Mataram is also by a Bengali.

Let’s take movies:
Satyajit Ray is easily one of the greatest auteurs of the world of all time. May be even the very best of all.
Japan’s great Akira Kurosawa had said ” To exist and not have watched Satyajit Ray’s movies is like living in this world without knowing about the sun or the moon”
Stephen Spielberg’s E.T is also said to be originally his idea.

And Ray is not by any means the only great movie maker we have had. We had several others. In fact, some of the big names in Hindi film industry are Bengalis as well.

Let’s take magic:
P.C.Sorcar senior is given the title of the Father of Indian Magic. He was probably the greatest magician in the world during his time and his son probably continues be the greatest magician in the world.
David Copperfield got a lot of publicity in the west after he vanished the statue of Liberty in NIGHT time after spending a lot of money. However, Sorcar junior made the Taj Mahal disappear in broad DAY light and with less expense. And don’t even think that vanishing is the only thing he can do. He can do lots of incredible things - for example, he is probably a greater escape artist than Houdini etc.

Here is a video of Sorcar (the son). There were better videos a year ago. Looks like they got taken away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb3h4sTFzaQ

The video also briefly talks about the Indian Rope Trick. Many believe that there was never such a trick. However, the most credible evidence of the existence of this trick exists in Jahangir’s diary and autobiography. And it is well known that the magicians in Jahangir’s court were practically all Bengalis. So if the Indian rope trick ever existed it almost certainly belonged to Bengalis.

Let’s take chess and mathematics:

  Yes, we haven’t produced any mathematician of Ramanujan’s caliber, but we did produce some pretty decent mathematicians. And I was having a look at the IMO candidates selected from India. I found that for nearly a decade the trend has been that about half of all the participants are from Bengal circle. This was surprising, because I know very well that there is very little awareness about IMO in Bengal. Certainly Bengalis don’t take this competition any more seriously than other states do. 

Yes, we have never produced any chess world champion like Anand, either. But we don’t do badly in chess. West Bengal is one of the states that has produced the highest number of grandmasters for India.(I am not even counting those Bangladesh grandmasters). Most of these Bengali grandmasters could not even continue further training abroad (like Anand was able to do because he was from a rich family)

And let me mention this- at least a small part of Anand’s achievement is shared by a Bengali. Surya Sekhar Ganguly was the only Indian assistant to Anand and he has been so for many years. And this guy, S.S.Ganguly, was at one point THE YOUNGEST PERSON TO BEAT A GRANDMASTER.
We also have some very promising champion players at very junior level (winning asian and world titles). Hopefully, some of them will make it big as they grow up.

Let’s take literaure and Economics:
The first Nobel prize for Asia was won by a Bengali, for literature. Some of the most cherished works of literature in India were written by various Bengalis, and a Bengali is the only Asian Nobel prize winner in Economics. Need I say more? 
Well, Sambit was saying something about Pulitzer prize. Even most Bengalis are unaware, but even last year’s pulitzer prize for non-fiction was given to a Bengali for a book about cancer.

Also:
The first Non-European person to become a fellow of the Royal Society of Science was also a Bengali chemist.
And I am no spiritual person, but I have seen a list of top 10 geniuses of all time made up by a white person on the net, and the one non-european who made that list was Swami Vivekananda. So this was a surprise that they have heard his name and regard him so highly.

Sorry for all the bragging. But when someone throws dirt on the floor, someone has to do the dirty job of cleaning it up. Everything I said is true.
While trying to look good in front of foreigners some are willing to play the dirty game of “look we are so good, but they are not so special”.
But even those who are trying to call it a “myth” that bengalis are smart know it very well that the stereotype in India that “Bengalis are smart” exist for very good reason. Bengalis are probably the single most successful group in all of India and possibly even in all of Asia, despite the 3rd world economy.

And I can sense some non-sensical replies coming trying to demean us bengalis, but I will not even bother replying unless I sense any meaning or honesty.

Oh and take music once again:
I cannot believe I missed out on Pandit Ravishankar.
George Harrison from Beatles has described Ravi as the “greatest musician he has ever known”.
Ravi Shankar is a Bengali as well.

And his both daughters Norah Jones and Anushka Shankar seems to be have got the musical genes. I think Norah made a record once with the number of Grammies she won. And Anushka is just as good, just may be a little less popular.

I have nothing against SAMBIT he has some great points but he was going in a wrong direction, sorry SAMBIT if I have hurt you with my harsh comments, I apologize for it. Again another Bengali babu? West Bengal has 5th place in GDP and in per capital income but why only 13th place in literacy among other Indian states, if they are so smart? so don’t bark too much on it. Indian scientists are all Indians, all of them are great and are a proud for any Indian. Only fools think it regional wise. think big think globally. See this is an old strategy to divide people regionally and nationally, that is the way foreigners conquered India and other nations. Now the most growing nations are India and China and are a threat to west. white supremo’s knows this, they will play any dirty game to create an enmity with these two nations to keep them at bay and that is what this forum is doing, think and wake up you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait, did I read that correctly? China won the war back in sixties?
That’s ridiculous. India did have more casualties, but that does not mean that they lost the war. China came with a surprise attack and then ran away when things started to get worse for them. They even learned a little bit of Hindi like “hindi chini bhai bhai”(india and china are brothers) to calm down the situation. Right now China probably has the upper hand, but back then they would have definitely lost if the battle continued.