The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle

A Reader In India Disputes Rushton On Intelligence
From: Ganesh Thiyagesan (e-mail him)

Re: J. Philippe Ruston’s Column: Indians Aren’t That Intelligent (On Average)

I wish to dispute the statements in Professor Rushton’s sarcastic article and in particular to his egregious references to “political implications.”

1) In South Africa, Indians have emerged as the most powerful race because the intellectually inferior, lazy, and drug/alcohol consuming white race is not be able to survive under black political and Indian economic take-over. This has been the case in Kenya, Uganda and Zimbabwe where Indians (who are numerically fewer compared to blacks and whites) have managed to dominate the economy. Other examples are Fiji, Mauritius, Suriname and Guyana. Whites in these countries could not compete economically and have fled. And white Afrikaners cannot compete without a government handout.

2) In Singapore, one of the darkest-skinned groups of South Asians, are the Sri Lanka Tamils. (I suggest Ruston’s main problem with Indians is that he cannot get over how dark the skin our skin is so he churlishly puts them down as if they were black) Yet, they were a model colonial community under the British Empire. In fact, the white British exported the Sri Lankan Tamils who have traditionally been judges, magistrates, doctors, lawyers, engineers and senior civil servants in the various South-east Asian colonies.

3) In America. Even among white populations, the Indian has shown himself superior in all ways. Indians are ethnically the wealthiest community in California, surpassing the Japanese, and are far more intelligent than white Americans.

According to the 2000 U.S. Census Indian Americans have the highest median income of any national origin group in the United States and Time Magazine recently published a lengthy feature about the Indian successes and riches amassed. Merrill Lynch estimates that there are nearly 200, 000 American Indian millionaires.

Indian Americans own 50 percent of all economy lodges and 35 percent of all hotels in the United States, which have a combined market value of almost $40 billion.

A UC Berkeley study reported that one-third of the engineers in Silicon Valley are of Indian descent, while 7 percent of valley high-tech firms are led by Indian CEOs. In 2002, there were over 223,000 Asian Indian-owned firms in the U.S., employing more than 610,000 workers, and generating more than $88 billion in revenue.

Thanks to Indians, America is rich Indian immigrants set up more technological start-ups than people from the four next biggest countries—the UK, China, Taiwan and Japan—combined. Of the estimated 7,300 such start-ups, Indians accounted for about 26 percent, the study said.

4) In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Chinese pupils are best-performing ethnic group with 86 percent passing national curriculum tests. School children of Indian origin come second with 85 percent while achieving the same standard while only 80 percent of white British pupils manage to reach a similar level in the assessment

For a professor, Rushton has an alarming lack of basic geographical and historical knowledge. His attempt to lump Indian Hindus together with Middle Eastern and North African Arabs is absurd to say the least.

India is part of the free world and has been a democracy with a free press and Independent judiciary since independence from Britain in 1947.

Well humans can be grouped into three IQ groups.
1] Cold climate adapted advanced races that are the most evolved with the highest IQ’s. Thay are also the most attractive of all the races. (Europids and Mongolids, among Europids mostly the Nordics).
2] Tropical climate adapted extremely ugly primitive black races (Africans, Papuans, Australoids)
3] Brown races who were formed by the interbreeding of advanced cold climate invaders with host low IQ populations. In looks and intelligence they fall in between the advanced races and the primitive races. Examples are the Arabs, Indians, Hispanics, Malays etc…

  As browns were formed by the interbreeding of the advanced races and primitive races, they are halfway between the both in intelligence and appearance.

Ram said ‘Thanks to Indians America is rich’. America was already rich and a superpower before Asian Indians went there in large numbers.

He also said ‘Indian Americans own 50 percent of all economy lodges and 35 percent of all hotels in the United States, which have a combined market value of almost $40 billion. ‘which translates to more cheating and cutting corners until the White owners are kicked out of the market. Also more nepotism. Without large numbers of Indians, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, Austria, Finland, Iceland etc…. are advanced countries. With all its Indians Fiji and Trinidad are backward countries. To be prosperous a nation needs more Europeans (especially Northern Europeans) and North East Asians. The browns and blacks are at best parasites. Capice.

Hey Ravan is a slant eyed Chinese who consider himself white, but he is too low and unintelligent to understand that whites hates Gooks as well, Infact they attack and destroy their businesses and property even before they bash any Indian or Middle Eastern. Your point of view hold no ground as their are no primitive race or advanced race, infact genetically all human beings was evolved from same parental tree in Africa. Morphological differences are used to classify people as three distinct groups namely Cacasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. Different Antropoligist can use several criterias to classify human beings on different parameters but it has no scientific validity. Millions of Chinese are starving to death, and more than 500 million works on paltry wages of less than $2 a day, what is the use of this kind of intelligence, is it not better if they born as Americans, black or white regardless they will atleast get good economic opportunity to better their lives

In the 2008 US math olympiad team, there are 6 members and
this has 2 brahmins and 1 chinese

The US Indian diaspora is
25% brahmin,
35% merchants
40% upper peasants ( Jat sikhs and Patels )

60% upper caste blend, 40% middle caste blend

In the 2003 new immigrant survey, run by Princeton
IQ tests on immigrant children that has regression to mean

India = 112
China = 106
Europe = 99
Africa = 89
Latin America = 85

With a different caste blend, the IQ will be different
In UK, Lynn found an Indian immigrant children IQ of 97,
for a caste blend of mostly Jat sikhs and Patels

In India, the malnutrition level is same as sub-saharan africa,
India also have iron and iodine deficiency, which cuts IQ

The immigrant children in US have good nutrition

I am not Chinese. I am Ravan, His Majesty King from Lanka. Lanka is not Chinese. I am Sita’s lover.
Anyways, the out of Africa thoery is flawed. Races exist. The Northern European and the North East Asian are the two most advanced races. The Negroid and Papuan/ Australians are the most primitive races. Browns fall in between. That is why they fall between the primitive races and the advanced races in IQ and looks.
China was kept behind thanks to Communism. Singapore, Hongkong and Taiwan are first world nations.

Subramanyam,

Maths Olympiad is dominated by Whites.

Brahmins are a group which more or less interbred amongst themselves for a long time though I doubt they are ‘pure’. The same eugenic forces which pushed Ashkenazi IQs up also pushed Brahmin IQs up. Both Hindus and Jews were formed by a mixture of primitive and advanced races. In Ashkenazi and Brahmins/ upper castes the trait of high IQ from their advanced part of their ancestry was chosen for many generations. But Northern Europeans and North East Asians are the real deal. They are high IQ space age advanced races to begin with.
Sometimes I wonder if both these races (I do not belong to any if them) are actually remnants of Extra- Terrestrials. But I guess I am getting carried away. These two races are so attractive on average and have such high IQs and have built such technologically advanced nations like Japan, Finland, Germany, S.Korea etc…

From Wikipedia article on Maths Olympiad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Mathematical_Olympiad_exceptional_participants

China is the only nation that won IMO all-member-gold for multiple times (totally 8 times, including years 1992, 1993, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006). Bulgaria is the nation with the smallest population to have won IMO and it is one of four countries (with USA, China, Russia) to have won IMO by having all of its team members finish with gold medals (in 2003[23]). Russia won IMO all-member-gold in 2002. The only country to have its entire team score perfectly on the IMO was the United States, which won IMO 1994 when it accomplished this, coached by Paul Zeitz. This accomplishment has never been repeated and earned a mention in TIME Magazine.[24] Hungary won IMO 1975 in an unorthodox way when none of the eight team members received a gold medal (five silver, three bronze). Second place team East Germany also did not have a single gold medal winner (four silver, four bronze).

‘Several individuals have consistently scored highly and/or earned medals on the IMO: Reid Barton (USA) was the first participant to win a gold medal four times (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001).[25] Barton is also one of only seven four-time Putnam Fellow (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004).[26] In addition, he is the only person to have won both the IMO and the International Olympiad in Informatics (IOI).[27] Christian Reiher (Germany) is the only other participant to have won four gold medals (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003); Reiher also received a bronze medal (1999).[28] Wolfgang Burmeister (East Germany), Martin Harterich (West Germany) and Iurie Boreico (Moldova) are the only other participants besides Reiher to win five Medals with at least three of them gold.[2] Ciprian Manolescu (Romania) managed to write a perfect paper (42 points) for gold medal more times than anybody else in history of competition. He did it all three times he participated in IMO (1995, 1996, 1997).[29] Manolescu is also a three-time Putnam Fellow (1997, 1998, 2000).[26] Eugenia Malinnikova (USSR) is the highest-scoring female contestant in IMO history. She has 3 gold medals in IMO 1989 (41 points), IMO 1990 (42) and IMO 1991 (42), missing only 1 point in 1989 to precede Manolescu’s achievement.[30] Terence Tao (Australia) participated in IMO 1986, 1987 and 1988, winning bronze, silver and gold medals respectively. He won a gold medal at the age of thirteen in IMO 1988, becoming the youngest person to receive a gold medal. He received a Fields medal in 2006.[31] Oleg Golberg (Russia/USA) is the only participant in IMO history to win gold medals for different countries: he won two for Russia in 2002 and 2003, then one for USA in 2004.[32] Vladimir Drinfel’d won a gold medal with a perfect paper in 1969, representing the Soviet Union. He went on to win a Fields Medal in 1990.[33] Grigori Perelman wrote a perfect paper to win a gold medal in 1982. He went on to win a Fields Medal in 2006. (However he declined the award.)’

No Indian and very few of them sound Ashkenazi.

On a different note, Hanumaan burned my kingdom with his tail last time but this time I am better prepared. Lanka is equiped with the most advanced of water sprinkers (installed by high IQ and good looking Northern European and North East Asian engineers) and we have a new fire fighting team (An idea we got from the Northern European British). I dare Hanumaan to do it again.

Hey Circuit, Paki cow fucking Sand Nigger, yes I agree honkey YTs hate gooks. I believe dat is becuz pale skinned Whitey be scared of chinky gooks and shit ever heard of that term ‘Yellow Peril’, biatch? Neva heard of ‘brown peril’ or ‘brown peril’ havya? Cuz evil Whitey realised that of all the races slant eyed gooks were the biggest threat to them and shit. Not niggers nor pakis but gooks geddit.

Anyways I miss Sita. My lanka is made up of ugly blackskinned rakshashas. Maybe I should allow more gooks and honkeys in. Will definitely improve the IQ and looks (and smell) of da place. Whatdayasay?

LOL, you ugly cow fucking semi primitive monkey think I am a chinky gook but I am not. I am neither Gook nor Honkey. But I rather be a Gook than be the ugly low IQ monkeys living in that shithole called India. You guys are one of the most ugliest, mixed breed mongrels in the world. Some look Indians look like niggers, some look like aboriginal savages, some look like honkeys some like gooks. Most look like a combination of everything. Your ugly faces and bodies look like a mismatch of every primate on earth. You nation is a bastard nation created by the mass fucking of everybody. If you see the sculptures at khajuraho you will understand what I am talkin about.

  On a different note, Sita sent me a love letter saying she finds Ram’s member too small and she enjoys sex with me after all. All that war and killing and loosing my eight heads for nothing. She is coming to Lanka on the next Air-Lanka Vimaan from that shithole called Ayodhya. Shout aloud ‘Jai Shri Ravan’. Yeah Ravan rulez. Ram sucks. Hanumaan sucks.

Enough of that PC rubbish on race. The truth is The Northern Europeans and the North East Asians are the two most advanced races. The Negroid and Papuan/ Australians are the most primitive races. Browns fall in between. That is why they fall between the primitive races and the advanced races in IQ and looks. Capice.

Gooks are so dumb they have not invented anything worth while so far they only copy western technology and masters in pirated software and DVDs and use their ugly looking primitive people to manufacture kitchen knives and toilet paper for advanced countries on paltry wages of less than $2, the [removed] shoes and Addidas T-shirts AmericanS wears are made in Indonesia for nothing, using slave labour. Apart from Japan which is a little bit developed North/South East Asia is quite poor and underdeveloped. Burma, Bhutan, Nepal, Mongolia, China, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Phillipines are poor developing countries, Singapore and HongKong was former British colonies. Chinese, Indonesians, North koreans pay huge bribes to people smugglers to transport them to America or Australia and they risk their lives to travel in leaky boats where many are killed while crossing borders. This is all hype created by vested interests, most of these gook Asians want to leave their countries to settle overseas, the living conditions are too bad, pollution is choking, communism and dictatorship sucks, corruption and bribery is rampant, quality of life is bad and not at all comparable to welfare states in Europe and America.

Race and intelligence
Main article: Race and intelligence
Researchers have reported differences in the average IQ test scores of various ethnic groups. The interpretation, causes, accuracy and reliability of these differences are highly controversial. Some researchers, such as Arthur Jensen, Richard Herrnstein, and Richard Lynn, have argued that such differences are at least partially genetic. Others, for example Thomas Sowell, argue that the differences largely owe to social and economic inequalities. Still others such as Stephen Jay Gould and Richard Lewontin have argued that categories such as “race” and “intelligence” are cultural constructs that render any attempt to explain such differences (whether genetically or sociologically) meaningless.

The Flynn effect is the rise of average Intelligence Quotient (IQ) test scores, an effect seen in most parts of the world, although at varying rates. Scholars therefore believe that rapid increases in average IQ seen in many places are much too fast to be as a result of changes in brain physiology and more likely as a result of environmental changes. The fact that environment has a significant effect on IQ demolishes the case for the use of IQ data as a source of genetic information.[86][87]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_beings)

BTW you curry munching retrard fail to understand that Indonesians, Thais, Malays, Vietnamese, Filipinos are not North East Asians but brown mixbreed south East Asians. In other words they are the same mongrel kind as you desis. That explains their mixed features and medium IQ just like South Asians. They like South Asians (Indians, Bangladeshis), Middle Easterners (Arabs) and other brown folks are mix breed mongrels with IQs and looks between the advanced races, Northern Europeans (Germans, Russians, Swedes) and North East Asians (Japanese, Chinese) on one hand and the primitive ape races, Negroids and Papuans. Capice.

  And remember Ravan rocks. Kumbhakarna (May he rest in peace) rocks. Surpanakha (may her nose rest in peace) rocks.

I agree with jon jay ray’s article up to some extent. The brown skinned tropical dwellers (Arabs, Indians, Malays etc…) tend to be better at abstract thinking and verbal IQ related abilities while North East Asians are more similar to Europeans as they are more practical and better at the visual IQ part. After all North East Asians evolved in the same cold conditions as Europeans. That explains why the religions emerging from South Asia/India and the Middle-East have been the most successful. But militarily Europeans (such as the British Empire) and North East Asians (such as the Mongol empire) dominated everybody as they simply built more advanced weapons. India itself was ruled for several centuries by the descendants of the Mongols (Mughal is the Persian for Mongol) before the British Raj. While the Europeans conquered everybody easily, they found conquering East Asians the hardest.
As far as negritos/ papuans reducing South East Asian IQs, the same can be said of South Asia. Indians, Sri lankas etc… too have primitive Papuan/Australoid/Negrito blood as can be easily seen from their facial features but the caste system helped separate gene pools and some of these gene pools experienced the same eugenic forces towards higher IQ as Ashkenazis. I am sure there has been some mixing between the castes but it was never much. Thus if South East Asians had a caste system, they might have had such high IQ gene pools which the South Asians got. But the average South Asian IQ would be low and in between the advanced northern races and the primitive races of the tropics and similar to South East Asian IQs.

Idiot, Gooks are Gooks, whether they call themselves Chinese , Japanese, Thais , Malays or Indonesians, they are having flat faces,  slant eyes and flat nose that means they are ugly, most of them lives in under developed poor countries without any democracy and human rights, they are not at all comparable to Europeans in IQ or looks, they are refered as Orientals or ‘Yellow race’ by the Europeans themselves, their countries are communist slums with little freedom of expression.  Millions of starving and undernourished people in China itself with economy so much dependant on the US that if it sneezes the whole China gets flu.  Whatever vested interests will say about race and intelligence the truth is Europe and America has best welfare states which provides good economic opportunities, healthcare and good standards of living to its citizens, the North/South East Asia, Indian Subcontinet or Arab countries fall way behind in all socio-economic parameters. Looks wise Caucasoids are the best looking whether they are from Europe, Middle East, North Africa or India(IndoAryans), Mongloids are not good looking and look more like a ape, just like Negroids and Australoids.

I agree gooks are gooks but there is abig difference between North East Asians like Chinese, Koreans etc… and South East Asians like Vietnamese, Thais etc… in looks even if here are overlaps. However in average IQ North East Asians outdo South East Asians and South Asians easy.
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

IQ wise South East Asian gooks cluster with curry munching smelly desi cow fuckers.
Yes looks wise Caucasians are the best but only if you are talk about pure Caucasians from Europe. Indians, Arabs etc.. have loads of Australoid, Mongoloid and Negroid blood in them and only a tiny elite minority are good looking (and also more European looking likethe Bollywood stars and Arab Pop stars). But the average Indian cow fucker or the average Arab camelfucker in the street is a ugly thing to behold. His/her body and face is mis-match of countless races and primate species. Among South Asians Pakistanis have the most Indo_European ancestry. In India mostly Kashmir and Hiamachal Pradesh, I would say. In the rest of the country Indo_European blood is diluted but very widespread. Most Indians have Caucasian skull features though.

Anyways I have to go. Sita is waiting. She is all strapped up ready for a little dirty spanking. Ravan’s member will be happy tonight.

In
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm
if you go down to figure 2 you shall see
Figure 2.  Per capita GDP by racial group. “White” here means European white; “East Asian” means the racially homogenous polities: Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Japan.
You can very well see that the researcher has only included North East chinks and not South East gooks like Vietnamese, Burmese or Malays. Now you get it. Those south east asian gooks are in the same boat as you curry munching monkeys from the failure country of india. Deal widit baitch.

I enjoyed sita’s vagina. man is she tight or what.

Funny these curry monkeys.
They want us to believe they all look like them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ew9yc1BrI

but in reality the vast majority of them look like these ugly monkey/nigger/honkey/gook/papuan/chimp/pig hybrids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsWtfutMllE&feature=related

Funny.

Very good Photo

Perfect scorers in Maths Olympiad. Northern Euros and North E Asians dominting the olympiad.

A caucasian woman more like a monkey with Gook features in this image, flat face, flat nose and slant eyes,  so primitive like ape, there countries are communist slums, they have invented nothing just steal and copy what their White masters invent. The reality is Caucasoids racial group is the best looking and most intelligent even the computer and internet you are using was invented by them, East Asians are working in factories for less than $2 a day for their white masters. It is China and Japan which have export dependant economies to the western nations mainly to the US, not the other way round. Most Chinese live with world class inferiority complex and thats why they try to cheat the world with their low quality and fake consumer goods, toys with lead paint, laptops with exploding batteries,  poisonous pet food, vegetables with toxic pesticides, even toxic milk and baby food. Chinese can’t b e trusted they are dodgy and corrupt people with nefarious designs. High IQ my foot?? Most educated Chinese wants to immigrate to western countries, with labour rates one of the lowest in the world and standard of living so poor. These Chinese even fake their Olympic fireworks, can you trust them, they might have paid one or two Western Psychologist and Anthropoligist to improve their profile in the western world, to market them as high IQ people. East Asia can hardly be classified as developed when majority of its population works on less than $2 a day, the healthcare is poor, no social security, pollution is choking, standard of living are poor. These countries are just serving the western interests by providing them facilities and factories to manufacture consumer goods using them for paltry wages.