The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle
After reading these materials, it seems to me that the caste system is very possible not introduced by the Aryan people, instead of, it is much more possible by Dravidian people.
The caste system would be pretty much due to india’s geographical location. It is tropical and isolated, only two small path can get into india in ancient.
It is tropical and so the old-type people survived due to the too ice period, instead of die out as in northern part of the earth. It is isolated so that only a small amount of people could move into India suncontinent at a time. The new comers were much more intelligent but too few to substitute the original people, which should be the base of caste system. The initial caste system should be by Dravidian people, which possibly related to Sumerian people. Dravidian people should be the mix of Sumerian people with local Austroloid or Negroid people. The Aryan people came and displaced the Dravidian people to the south. Most of the high rank castes are the people of mix between Aryan (and sub-squenced movein, as Kushan, Turks, ect) and Dravidian.
What the percentage of genes are of Sumerian and Aryan origin? Maybe Lynn’s data is reliable.
Posted by John Ray on January 02, 2005: Fiji would be interesting as they are quite prosperous there
5 COUPS & now a dictatorial military ‘government’! FIJI now has a VERY LOW IQ. All the educated skilled Indians have LEFT this pathetic little former paradise.
Posted by Circuit on April 23, 2009: Gooks are so dumb they have not invented anything worth while so far they only copy western technology and masters in pirated software and DVDs and use their ugly looking primitive people to manufacture kitchen knives and toilet paper for advanced countries on paltry wages of less than $2, the [removed] shoes and Addidas T-shirts AmericanS wears are made in Indonesia for nothing, using slave labour.
So True…
A recent piece by John Derbyshire, very much worth reading in its own right, contained a link to a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa, professor at the London School of Economics.
a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa: http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/ep04120128.pdf
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Can Asians Think?
By Ian Jobling
3/24/09
A recent piece by John Derbyshire, very much worth reading in its own right, contained a link to a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa, professor at the London School of Economics. Prof. Kanazawa has plainly had it up to here with Asians and puts the smackdown on white multiculturalists who gain virtue points by talking up Asian superiority. The article begins with a section pleasingly entitled “Asians Can’t Think” that documents their pronounced inferiority to white people in creativity. (I’ve also written about Asians’ creativity deficit.) Intelligent Asians are great at making “making the robot dog Aibo look and behave even more like a real dog,” but they’re very bad at formulating the radically new concepts that make for major scientific innovations.
Asians are so conformist that they have a hard time grasping the Western concept of original work.
At LSE, we have an enormous problem of plagiarism among our Asian students. Despite the fact that each student, Asian or otherwise, must sign a declaration that their work is original and they have not plagiarized, many Asian students simply copy the work of established scholars. To them it is a venerable act of honoring their masters to “borrow” from them, by copying their words verbatim. No matter how much we tell them that it is wrong, Asian students simply cannot understand why it is wrong to honor their intellectual masters by faithfully reproducing their work. Needless to say, this is no recipe for scientific progress.
Kanazawa treats us to an insider’s lowdown on Chinese university students:
The communist government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) has a policy of not letting their brightest students leave the country for fear of the brain drain and of forcing them to study home at Chinese universities. Then it sends the second-rate students to American universities and the third-rate students to British universities, both with falsified transcripts and exam results to make them look first-rate. Here at LSE where I teach, we receive a large number of these third-rate Chinese students dressed up as first-rate. (About 5-10% of all undergraduate and graduate students at LSE are from PRC.) Virtually every Chinese applicant to LSE boasts “the highest exam scores in their province.” Apparently it has not occurred to the LSE admissions office that there could not possibly be that many provinces in China. Naturally, most of these PRC students do very poorly and fail out of the program, and, when they do, many confess to having purchased or otherwise fabricated their exam scores and transcripts before they applied for LSE.
This article made my day, and I’m hoping it might make yours, too.
http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/blog/blog/can_asians_think/
What is the West?
http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/Articles/Articles/what_is_the_west_part_ii/
Posted by BATTAILE (‘BATTLE’) on May 13, 2009, 10:26 PM | #
Posted by Circuit on April 23, 2009: Gooks are so dumb they have not invented anything worth while so far they only copy western technology and masters in pirated software and DVDs and use their ugly looking primitive people to manufacture kitchen knives and toilet paper for advanced countries on paltry wages of less than $2, the [removed] shoes and Addidas T-shirts AmericanS wears are made in Indonesia for nothing, using slave labour.
So True…
A recent piece by John Derbyshire, very much worth reading in its own right, contained a link to a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa, professor at the London School of Economics.
a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa: http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/ep04120128.pdf
——————————————————————————————
Can Asians Think?
By Ian Jobling
3/24/09
A recent piece by John Derbyshire, very much worth reading in its own right, contained a link to a brutal depreciation of the Asian intellect by one Satoshi Kanazawa, professor at the London School of Economics. Prof. Kanazawa has plainly had it up to here with Asians and puts the smackdown on white multiculturalists who gain virtue points by talking up Asian superiority. The article begins with a section pleasingly entitled “Asians Can’t Think” that documents their pronounced inferiority to white people in creativity. (I’ve also written about Asians’ creativity deficit.) Intelligent Asians are great at making “making the robot dog Aibo look and behave even more like a real dog,” but they’re very bad at formulating the radically new concepts that make for major scientific innovations.
Asians are so conformist that they have a hard time grasping the Western concept of original work.
At LSE, we have an enormous problem of plagiarism among our Asian students. Despite the fact that each student, Asian or otherwise, must sign a declaration that their work is original and they have not plagiarized, many Asian students simply copy the work of established scholars. To them it is a venerable act of honoring their masters to “borrow” from them, by copying their words verbatim. No matter how much we tell them that it is wrong, Asian students simply cannot understand why it is wrong to honor their intellectual masters by faithfully reproducing their work. Needless to say, this is no recipe for scientific progress.
Kanazawa treats us to an insider’s lowdown on Chinese university students:
The communist government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) has a policy of not letting their brightest students leave the country for fear of the brain drain and of forcing them to study home at Chinese universities. Then it sends the second-rate students to American universities and the third-rate students to British universities, both with falsified transcripts and exam results to make them look first-rate. Here at LSE where I teach, we receive a large number of these third-rate Chinese students dressed up as first-rate. (About 5-10% of all undergraduate and graduate students at LSE are from PRC.) Virtually every Chinese applicant to LSE boasts “the highest exam scores in their province.” Apparently it has not occurred to the LSE admissions office that there could not possibly be that many provinces in China. Naturally, most of these PRC students do very poorly and fail out of the program, and, when they do, many confess to having purchased or otherwise fabricated their exam scores and transcripts before they applied for LSE.
This article made my day, and I’m hoping it might make yours, too.
http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/blog/blog/can_asians_think/
What is the West?
http://whiteamerica.us/index.php/Articles/Articles/what_is_the_west_part_ii/
ASIANS CAN’T THINK, CAN’T WRITE: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3341.0
Posted by Circuit on April 21, 2009, 09:11 AM | #
Hey Ravan is a slant eyed Chinese who consider himself white, but he is too low and unintelligent to understand that whites hates Gooks as well
So True Circuit…
The YELLOW PERIL: Australia muscling up as America’s power wanes
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3642.0
ANTI-CHINESE TENSIONS ON THE RISE IN AUSTRALIA
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3658.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?board=1.80
Barely perceptible on the horizon is an enigmatic, tough, well-armed warrior. He peers at America through slanted dark eyes set between high cheekbones. He understands parasites. He understands our pathology. He envies our long-limbed White women and our lebensraum. Almost imperceptibly he smiles.
THE CHINESE EXCLUSION CASE, 130 U. S. 581 (1889): http://supreme.justia.com/us/130/581/case.html
INVADING PLUNDERERS: ENVYING WHITE LEBENSRAUM AND LONG-LIMBED WHITE WOMEN:
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3050.0
EMINENT DOMAIN: THE CHINESE ARE AFTER YOUR LAND: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3057.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3050.0
Posted by Ravan on April 22, 2009, 06:07 PM | #
From Wikipedia article on Maths Olympiad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Mathematical_Olympiad_exceptional_participants
Wikipedia Is JUNK: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3724.0
Wikipedia’s guiding principle is agreement rather than truth, says Oliver Kamm
Knowledge by consensus is Wikipedia’s downfall
By Oliver Kamm
FIRST POSTED APRIL 1, 2009
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/46900,opinion,knowledge-by-consensus-wikipedia-jimmy-wales
In conception and characteristics, Wikipedia is distinctively a creature of the internet: vast, sprawling and of dramatically variable quality. It is also, by design, an anti-intellectual project. Wikipedia recognises no intrinsic value in competence or knowledge; its guiding principle is agreement rather than truth. Intellectual inquiry involves testing ideas against the canons of evidence. Wikipedia’s ‘community’ offers members a different route to recognition - one shorn of the burden of earning it.
Scientific method is integral to Western civilisation. The invention of the printing press in the fifteenth century allowed the rapid dissemination of ideas, and knowledge began to spread with particular force some three centuries ago with the Scientific Revolution, whose foundations lay in the work of thinkers of classical Greece. In principle, the advent of the web and the planned accumulation of knowledge in an online reference source ought to be a still more powerful means of spreading enlightenment.
Wikipedia has no means of arbitrating between claims other than popularity
But Wikipedia does not work like that. The project’s advocates imagine that the problem, if they recognise one at all, lies in the variable quality of Wikipedia’s individual entries. The solution is obvious: a process in which editors work on the less successful entries and remove the obviously unmerited ones.
In reality, the problem is much more fundamental to Wikipedia than that much of its content is a pile of dross. Whereas science and learning pursue truth, Wikipedia prizes consensus. Wikipedia has no means of arbitrating between different claims, other than how many people side with one position rather than another. That ethos is fatal to the advancement of learning. Ideas are refined by being tested; scientific method presupposes scrutiny, experiment and conflict.
Andrew Lih’s hagiography of the venture - The Wikipedia Revolution: How a Bunch of Nobodies Created the World’s Greatest Encyclopedia (Aurum Press, £14.99) - is succinct and consistent. From its vainglorious and bathetic subtitle onwards, it is a remorselessly superficial and unreflective book. Long on wide-eyed enthusiasm for technological detail, it is alarmingly short on learning.
Respect is never an entitlement in a culture of learning, it must be earned
Paradoxically, the most useful part of the book is the unintended candour of Wikipedia’s founder, Jimmy Wales, in envisaging that the venture will be founded on “love and respect”. Again, the point is not to contrast Wales’s hopes with the virulent abuse that characterises much of Wikipedia’s deliberations. It is rather that love and respect are irrelevant to the advancement of knowledge. In a culture that prizes discovery and education, respect is never an entitlement. It is earned, and then still contingent, to the extent that ideas prove their resilience against attacks. Wikipedia does not adhere to those standards of intellectual inquiry.
The most disturbing aspect of Lih’s encomium is his treatment of the human side of Wikipedia - what he excruciatingly terms the community. His description of Wales as “like a prophet visiting his flock” is a more revealing simile than he realises. His account of the way in which the self-designated Wikipedians meet bears the hallmarks of a cult. And that strictly is what Wikipedia represents. It is not part of a democratic culture so much as a populist one: a combination of the anti-intellectualism of the Left and the free-market dogmatism of the Right.
Lih refers to - he can hardly avoid mentioning - the scandal in which a prominent member of the Wikipedia “community” and of its arbitration committee turned out to be not, as the man had claimed, a tenured professor of religion but a 24-year-old college drop-out called Ryan Jordan. Wales’s handling of the episode - he initially stated that Jordan had “been thoughtful and contrite about the entire matter, and I consider it settled” - demonstrated that a false claim to knowledge was an unexceptionable part of Wikipedia’s culture.
Lih’s defence of Wales is - and the feebleness ought to make both men blush - that Wales was “likely working off imperfect information”.
As is characteristic of Wikipedia’s devotees, Lih is fond of setting up straw men: of maintaining that Wikipedia, if it did not work, would produce “nothing but a pile of incomprehensible junk”. Wikipedia is indeed comprehensible, and some of its articles effectively mimic the language of scholarly reference. The venture is junk, nonetheless. Wikipedia occupies a prominent part of the Web; the rough beast’s hour has come round at last. But there is no reason to accept or value it, still less use it for its intended purpose.
Posted by josh on July 09, 2007, 08:59 PM | #
Richard Lynn two books:
1. “IQ and Wealth of Nations:
2 “IQ and Global Inequality”
These two books have good discussions of issue.
With whites centered at 100 (one hundred).
Most of the world can be divided in five group.s
Jews @ 113 IQ. Al Einstein and others.
East Asians @ 105 IQ
Euro-Whites @ 100 IQ
US blacks, Hispaics, Filipinos, Mexicans @ 85 IQ
Indians in India @ 80-83 IQ
Black Africans in Africa @ 70 IQ
Australian Aborinines @ 60 IQ
It’s the Truth. from over a 100 years of testing and data gathering.
Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist: http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/AEIPBook.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm
Albert Einstein, Plagiarist of the Century.
by Richard Moody, Jr
Extracted from Nexus Magazine
Volume 11, Number 1
(December 2003-January 2004)
from NexusMagazine Website
Japanese is more than half australoid/Negroid.
- haplogroup D: 38% (same as andanman islander, negroid)
- haplogroup C: 15% (same as australian aboritine, australoid)
53% of Japanese is of autraloid/negroid origin, and only 47% is of mongoloid origin.
Korean is of 12% haplogroup C but no D found so far.
First, east asian are quite different genetically. Second, if Japanese has the highest avg IQ even if it is majoritely australoid/negroid. we can fairly say that IQ is not determined by genes but by other factors.
Aryan did not invade India, instead Aryan invaded Europe from India. Aryan were just as paleness as modern India Brahmin instead as paleness as European Whites.
Just look at the haplohroup NOP people: N, O, Q, R. N and O are closer, R and Q are closer. all modern N and O people are yellowish people, except N3, which is quite common in Northern European as Finnish. Finnish still show a little yellowish because N3 merge into European relative lately.
Q are mainly Amrican India and they are mongoloid people too.
Now look at haplogroup R. R originated from Northern India since India show the most diveristy of R: R1a, R1b and R2. Most of R in Modern India are of R1a, who are quite yellowish too. The donimate R in West European is R1b. Since Most of NOP people (N, O, Q, R1a, R2) are yellowish people, It is much reasonable that R1b should be yellowish instead of White. R1b and N3 become dornimate in European because NOP are the most successful Genes and has covered the haplogroup I which is White.
The yellowish R1b people invaded European and got the white women and so they become white, but their Gene is still R1b.
The Aryan people originated from Northern India and Invaded European, brought the indo-aryan lauguage and become dornimate now. The N3 people invaded European from Northern Asia, brought their finn-ural language and become dornimate now.
The ancient DNA reserach has showed that Cro-Magnons are of haplogroup I, which lost their women to Indo-Aryan haplogroup R.
The white are not much to proud of except providing their beautiful woman for the India Aryan.
The white are not much to proud of except providing their beautiful woman for the India Aryan.
(anilgupta)
LOL! What a hurtful thing to say, Gunga. I’m amazed you find the time for such vitriol, what with all of your peoples accomplishments. Shouldn’t you be out throwing helpless widows onto funeral pyres? Oh, wait, the European stopped you from engaging in that and many other barbaric practices. Bummer, I know.
But have no fear, there are Indian practices that European man was not able to squelch entirely. For example, you still have that old Calcutta standby - defecating in the middle of the street. Reach for the sky, dude.
AnilGupta:
—Since Most of NOP people (N, O, Q, R1a, R2) are yellowish people, It is much reasonable that R1b
should be yellowish instead of White.
Your intepretion is wrong. IJK are quite paleness people, those NOP people became yellowish due to their mixture with Australoid and Negroid people, the haplogroup C and D people, which are quite different from IJK people. European are most of IJK people only.
Look at the mongoloid people, both colour and height are just between European and Austroloid/Negroid people.
—R originated from Northern India
But this was long before any civilization came into being, 40k years ago. Aryan invasion were several thousands year ago.
Josh is a white nationalist imbecile. Indians are one of the smartest peoples on the face of this earth. I find however the darker indians to be very intelligent. The white ones from north india are very idiotic and have the “white devil” gene. And how does a low IQ make one “eliminated” from society? They’re millions of humans with low iq’s who are finanically stable. And please don’t compare chinese to indians. We are a totally different people. We may come from the same “continent”, but no way we are the same!
- Chinese people eat everything like the white man(dogs,cats,pigs,etc..)
* Indians are respectable people and love all animals litterally
- Chinese are yellow skinnned people
* Indians are dark skinned beautiful creatures
- Chinese have a barbaric mentality like white man and love to conquer and kill innocent people.
Kick out all the predatory hindus and sihks back to the septic tank called India. Paki scum also. If they do not leave OUR AMERICA voluntarily..the issue will eventually be settled in a race war within the borders of OUR AMERICA. The hindus siks,pakis,koreans and chinese in OUR AMERICA are predatory scum!!!! More and more NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICANS are waking up to this obviouos fact. I see the transformation all the time.
Well, I remember that there is a way of extrapolating the ‘smart fraction’ of a population from it’s avg. IQ. I dont remember how it works, mathematically, but it assumes a gaussian distribution and thus it might be impaired by the fact that the Indian population is highly stratified and presents various sub-clusters, but in any case, it should be possible to calculate the smart fraction - if we assume, for example, a ‘smart fraction’ (IQ>125) of just 0,2 percent (which was, according to that page, and I dont agree with it, the smart fraction of the Congo), a population of 1.1 billion would still get us 2.2 million people with an IQ of 125 and above. And we can assume (based on Lynn&Vanhanen;‘s average IQ data, upon which this very discussion seems to be founded) a much larger smart fraction for the Indian population. The total number of people with an IQ of 125 and above, and this might astonish, could very well be larger than the entire population of several caucasian-only nations take together! This means there is ample supply of bright individuals to win math olympics, harvest Nobel prizes and get the first man to Jupiter, while the majority of the population might still live in poverty. Especially in the case of geographically stratified populations, there might be local high-IQ environments where science and technology can flourish, lessening the depression of individual ability that results when a high-IQ individual is in a low-IQ surrounding. This obviously means that the absolute number of bright people determines the absolute output of nobel prizes, GDP, inventions, etc, while the relative number determines per capita output. The relative number is determined by the population’s average IQ, while the absolute number must of course take the population size into account. Geographically stratified clusters can be treated as individual economies and national populations in this respect.
Moreover, there are convincing theories of multiple intelligences (despite the ‘g’ correlate), which could explain why Indians score highly regarding mathematics, but may present themselves with a lower avg. IQ nonetheless.
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